hicksy Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yep, ive got yet another Escort, this time its a 1996 Cabby. Ive got a bit of a problem with the roof on it, its a bit intermittent on going back up, it goes down fine but when i go to put it up it moves a few inches then stops Am i right in thinking the pumps buggered, i can hear the relay clicking but nothing happens. Cheers Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeWee Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'm having problems with mine, not tried it since I got it back & it hasnt been used for two years.Mine wont open, I can hear the motor, I can manual move it half way and it will shute electric from there?I also can't figure where the manual dial is in the boot for the pump? Would like any info on cabby electric roof if anyone knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerrob666 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) I'm having problems with mine, not tried it since I got it back & it hasnt been used for two years.Mine wont open, I can hear the motor, I can manual move it half way and it will shute electric from there?I also can't figure where the manual dial is in the boot for the pump? Would like any info on cabby electric roof if anyone knows? Quoting from Haynes: Powered hood system: open the boot lid and lower the hood. Remove the appropriate trim panel to gain access to the pump (in the left hand side of the luggage area) and the hydrolic ram (located behind the rear quarter panel) on the side concerned. where more than one hose is to be detached from the pump, the respective hoses and their connections to the pump should be labelled for identification, to avoid confusion when reconnecting them loosen off the fluid filler plug on the pump to depressurise the system. disconnct the hose(s) from the location tangs to the body, and the tape securing it to the ram and other hoses. Loosen off the hose to pump union(S), and detach the hose(S). SYSTEM BLEEDING (this seems to be common for both the oump and the ram - poss area for you guys to look at?????) remove the fluid filler plug from the pump. Top up the fluid level with the specified fluid type to the "MAX" mark, then loosley retighten the plug. Unscrew an open the bypass tap 90 to 180dgrees (maximum), then manually raise and lower the hood once. Recheck the fluid level in the pump, top up if required, tighten the by-pass tap and refit the filler plug.turn the ignition switch to"I" (accessory), then close and open the roof 5 times using the roof operating switch. At the end of this cycle the roof should operate smoothly in both dirctions, and the pump motor should give a smooth constant operating sound. with the roof in the open position recheck the fluid level and top-up if required. Hope that helps - by the looks of the diagrams, the pump is located in the boot behind the the side trim on the passanger side (nearside) and there are two rams for the hood, one on each side behind the rear 3/4 panel - the system bleeding as described above will do all three units. Hope you guys get your roofs sorted before the summer. http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o720/rockerrob666/Project%20Satan/img046_zps91d34dfb.jpg if you check the diagram on the rhs it shows where the bypass tap is and the filler plug Edited February 16, 2013 by Rockerrob666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingeRS2K Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Mine hasn't worked either, it did on the day I brought it. Few days later 2nd try and conked out halfway opening. Now it's out of storage and freshly MOT'd I'm determined to get the hood working again - while point of owning a convertible lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingeRS2K Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Mine hasn't worked either, it did on the day I brought it. Few days later 2nd try and conked out halfway opening. Now it's out of storage and freshly MOT'd I'm determined to get the hood working again - while point of owning a convertible lol Found the fault on mine, fuse gone KAPUT!! Replaced said fuse with one from front fogs as they share the same 15A rating fuse. Opened up then refused to close or open again. Gotta go and find one of them heavy duty fuses I think. Hickys, it might be the pumps cog wheel that's gone on yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeWee Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Great info to try when the weathers good thanks.Another thought is that the battery might of been low on power as I hadn't drove it for 5 weeks when I did try it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yule Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Have I got the only cabby on here with a working roof? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerrob666 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Mine hasn't worked either, it did on the day I brought it. Few days later 2nd try and conked out halfway opening. Now it's out of storage and freshly MOT'd I'm determined to get the hood working again - while point of owning a convertible lol Found the fault on mine, fuse gone KAPUT!! Replaced said fuse with one from front fogs as they share the same 15A rating fuse. Opened up then refused to close or open again. Gotta go and find one of them heavy duty fuses I think. Hickys, it might be the pumps cog wheel that's gone on yours?Just a bit of a guess as the power roof isn't listed i my Haynes, but 15A seems a bit small for the hood, when you reckon that the electric front windows is 20A. I'd double check someone before you hasn't put in the wrong sized fuse an thats why it keeps blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingeRS2K Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Mine hasn't worked either, it did on the day I brought it. Few days later 2nd try and conked out halfway opening. Now it's out of storage and freshly MOT'd I'm determined to get the hood working again - while point of owning a convertible lol Found the fault on mine, fuse gone KAPUT!! Replaced said fuse with one from front fogs as they share the same 15A rating fuse. Opened up then refused to close or open again. Gotta go and find one of them heavy duty fuses I think. Hickys, it might be the pumps cog wheel that's gone on yours?Just a bit of a guess as the power roof isn't listed i my Haynes, but 15A seems a bit small for the hood, when you reckon that the electric front windows is 20A. I'd double check someone before you hasn't put in the wrong sized fuse an thats why it keeps blowing. I might try that, but the pump motor fuse has a different kind of fuse, not like the ones under the dash. But you could be right someone may have put in a lower rating one time in its life. Mine hasn't worked either, it did on the day I brought it. Few days later 2nd try and conked out halfway opening. Now it's out of storage and freshly MOT'd I'm determined to get the hood working again - while point of owning a convertible lol Found the fault on mine, fuse gone KAPUT!! Replaced said fuse with one from front fogs as they share the same 15A rating fuse. Opened up then refused to close or open again. Gotta go and find one of them heavy duty fuses I think. Hickys, it might be the pumps cog wheel that's gone on yours?Just a bit of a guess as the power roof isn't listed i my Haynes, but 15A seems a bit small for the hood, when you reckon that the electric front windows is 20A. I'd double check someone before you hasn't put in the wrong sized fuse an thats why it keeps blowing. I might try that, but the pump motor fuse has a different kind of fuse, not like the ones under the dash. But you could be right someone may have put in a lower rating one time in its life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicksy Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Mine hasn't worked either, it did on the day I brought it. Few days later 2nd try and conked out halfway opening. Now it's out of storage and freshly MOT'd I'm determined to get the hood working again - while point of owning a convertible lol Found the fault on mine, fuse gone KAPUT!! Replaced said fuse with one from front fogs as they share the same 15A rating fuse. Opened up then refused to close or open again. Gotta go and find one of them heavy duty fuses I think. Hickys, it might be the pumps cog wheel that's gone on yours? I did think that, but the pump doesnt even try to work, the relay just clicks. It doesnt do it everytime, only sometimes and its only when i try to put the roof back up. Ill try another relay, and failing that ill get another pump for it. At least the roof can still be put up and down manually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeWee Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Mine hasn't worked either, it did on the day I brought it. Few days later 2nd try and conked out halfway opening. Now it's out of storage and freshly MOT'd I'm determined to get the hood working again - while point of owning a convertible lol Found the fault on mine, fuse gone KAPUT!! Replaced said fuse with one from front fogs as they share the same 15A rating fuse. Opened up then refused to close or open again. Gotta go and find one of them heavy duty fuses I think. Hickys, it might be the pumps cog wheel that's gone on yours? I did think that, but the pump doesnt even try to work, the relay just clicks. It doesnt do it everytime, only sometimes and its only when i try to put the roof back up. Ill try another relay, and failing that ill get another pump for it. At least the roof can still be put up and down manually Are you putting the manual dial back to normal when trying the electric way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeWee Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Ok so bit of sun today so had a chance to have a look, similar to you Hicksy when I put the roof down manual it comes up a little way under the power button.Checked my fluid and it is way below the minimum mark so assuming that's my problem.Just need to find out what fluid I need and top that up, not sure if it still will need bleeding though as I am not draining the system?I can hear the motor whirring/buzzing.In my case it wont open electric but will move a few inches closing.I suppose if the fluid is that low it simply cannot operate the hydraulics until topped up? Edited February 18, 2013 by PeeWee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeWee Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 ***Update*** Roof working well again now. Topped the fluid up with roof closed.Refit the filler bolt as described but not tight up.Half opened the manual release valve and opened and closed the roof by hand.Re-tightened the filler bolt and tightened the manual valve.Presto electric operation. Had to repeat this a few times and help the roof up a few times, I assume due to stiffness being on for two years.Had a spell just like yours hicksy where it would open but not fully close but helped it along a few times.Now all well and good. For info I used hydraulic jack fluid as it seems this is the same (do NOT use power steering fluid as I believe this causes damage to the reservoir).Correct fluid is £25 from fords for 1ltr and jack fluid £5 for 500ml of which I only needed half that. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yule Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It thought mine was packing up on me yesterday when went to take it down but after having a look round the car the roof itself was catching on the seal on the way down when was folding so just tucked it in, all is fine now. Glad u guys got it sorted, no point having a cabby if the roof doesn't work. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicksy Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Mine was low too the other day when i checked it but i havent bled it yet. I still had some of the proper ford fluid left over, it was about £18 for 500ml about 4 years ago Ill bleed it up and see how it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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