Craig855S Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Fantastic thread so far, love things like this. Will you be using new rings with your newly bored out engine or just reusing the old ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksofstichill Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Keep it coming! Will do, thanks! Ohhhh, I've been looking forward to this post! Thanks, there's loads of work to do on this so there'll be plenty of updates! Oh no, I kept scrolling and it stopped Ha ha, sorry about that, by the time I've finished there'll be plenty of pics and reading in this! Fantastic thread so far, love things like this. Will you be using new rings with your newly bored out engine or just reusing the old ones? Thanks, glad you find it interesting. In pretty much any other case I'd say to fit new rings every time, even more so if the bore has been scored. However, in this case I'm going to re-use the existing rings, the reason for this is that although the bores are scored the pistons and rings are pristine with no marks or scoring on them, basically from what the owner of the car found out from an Arias dealer the Pistons were not from the engine's original build, they were a new order at a later date.My understanding of it is that the first set of pistons caused the bore damage and a second set were ordered to replace them and subsequently fitted (they should really have rebored and fitted oversize pistons at that stage) but the engine can't have been ran for any time at all with these new pistons, the scores on the bores are so bad the pistons would have "picked up" on the bores and scored the pistons too if it had been ran for any length of time. So, it's now time for a much overdue update on this engine as quite a bit of work has gone on since my last update! As you may remember the original block was scored and since we are re-using the forged pistons we decided to start with a fresh block and bore it out to suit. So, I picked out the best block I had which was in the best cosmetic condition to minimise the amount of time needed to clean it up - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0080.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0081.jpg So, it was into the workshop - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0082.jpg And out with the boring bar - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0083.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0084.jpg Original bores were in really good condition which is a shame since we are boring out anyway - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0085.jpg Since I had last used the boring bar on a crossflow bore I needed to remove the 3 "cats paws" which centralise the bar in the bore so I could fit larger ones to suit the larger RS bore - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0086.jpg Cats Paws removed - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0087.jpg A quick look at the toolkit for the boring bar - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0088.jpg The correct set of cats paws were selected - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0089.jpg And fitted to the bar - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0090.jpg Correct size of bore clamp selected - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0091.jpg And clamped into the bore of No 3 Cylinder, the small "foot" of the clamp locks in at the bottom of the bore and the "finger" is screwed out until it clamps tightly into the bore - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0092.jpg The top clamp slides over the bore clamp with the large round screw head of the bore clamp locating into the T-slot on the bottom side of the top clamp. http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0093.jpg The Top Clamp then slides into the bottom of the boring bar and is tightened down the clamp the bore to the block, at this stage though the top clamp is left slack until the bar is centralised in the bore - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0094.jpg Boring Bar over No 1 cylinder ready to lower it into the bore - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0095.jpg Entering the bar into the bore - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0096.jpg With the bottom of the bar half way down the bore, the cats paws are screwed out to centralse the bar on no 1 bore - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0097.jpg And then the Top Clamp is tightened up to hold the boring bar in place on the block - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0098.jpg The correct size of cutting tool is selected - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0099.jpg It is then adjusted to the correct length and set to that length in a special micrometer which reads the size the bar will cut at - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0100.jpg The grub screw on the side of the cutting tool is tightened up once the tool length is set so that it stays locked in place - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0101.jpg Boring bar ready to have the cutting tool fitted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0102.jpg Fitted and locked into place with a grub screw on the side of the boring bar - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0103.jpg First Cut being taken here, we need to bore this out by 0.5mm so my first "roughing cut" is 0.375mm which leaves 0.125mm for a finishing cut - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0104.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganges Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 sod the haynes manual, have you thought about writeing a book, this is high detail at its best, love it, and thats coming from a lay man, keep it coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig855S Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks, I'd always wondered what kind of tool was used for rebores and how it was set up and now I know. How much is this bit of kit worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksofstichill Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 sod the haynes manual, have you thought about writeing a book, this is high detail at its best, love it, and thats coming from a lay man, keep it coming Thanks, really appreciate that and pleased to hear you like the detail in the project, I've not thought about writing a book though! On another forum I use some people have actually said they don't like me putting up so many photos of the work I do. Thanks, I'd always wondered what kind of tool was used for rebores and how it was set up and now I know. How much is this bit of kit worth? Cool, this is one of the reasons I put a lot of effort into detailing my work, it's sometimes the only chance people have of seeing how some jobs are done so I'm glad it's been helpful to you. I've no idea how much the boring bar and tooling for it is worth though, this one will have been at the garage since around the early 70's at a guess, I've got a book with it showing the jobs it did in the 50's and 60's before my Dad and Uncle bought it, so it's a fair age! bit more to show here, First cut taken and you can see the difference in bore finish - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0105.jpg Cutting tool reset in the micrometer to take the finishing cut - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0106.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0107.jpg Bar set up ready to take the finishing cut - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0108.jpg Finishing cut taken - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0109.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0110.jpg Bore diameter checked with the internal micrometer, you'll see that the bore is still 0.01mm undersize, this is the alowance I have made for material removed during honing - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0111.jpg Then the boring bar is all set up on No 2 cylinder and the same process is carried out on the rest of the bores - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0112.jpg All 4 cylinders bored - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0113.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0114.jpg Next up the Honing Bar comes out to finsh the bores off - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0115.jpg Ready to enter it into the Bore - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0116.jpg Entered into the bore, centralised and expanded out to meet the bore walls - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0117.jpg And working up and down the bores - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0118.jpg Bore sizes re-checked with the micrometer and you can see they are now right on the 86.50mm mark - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0119.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0120.jpg All 4 bores honed out - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0121.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0122.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0123.jpg More updates as soon as I can, cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee grout Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Love it.......nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig855S Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Awesome, more intresting stuff, is that honing bit just a smooth grinding stone or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksofstichill Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Love it.......nuff said Cheers, much appreciated! Awesome, more intresting stuff, is that honing bit just a smooth grinding stone or something? Thanks, yes, the Honing sticks are basically very smooth grinding stones, in this case their job is to smooth the bore out as the boring bar cutting tool leaves the bore with tiny grooves all the way down it, the hone smooths off the high spots and brings the bore to it's final size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksofstichill Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 Another small update for you, with the engine bored out and honed it was time to put it on the stand to do some more work on it, engine stand bracket bolted on - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0124.jpg And onto the stand - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0125.jpg Looking at the front of the block, I need to add in an Oil Return from the Turbo in the new Block - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0126.jpg A quick look at the original block shows it was in the bottom right corner of the block but with a steeply angled return pipe, a bend like that isn't great for a gravity flow - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0127.jpg So, going back to the new Block, I decided to use the same location for the return pipe and centre drilled into the block - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0128.jpg Drillled out with a Pilot Drill - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0129.jpg Drilled out to 18.5mm - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0130.jpg And Reamed out to 19.05mm (3/4"), I decided to make the return hole as large as possible as I'll be making a spigot to suit rather than re-using the existing pipe - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0131.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0132.jpg And viewed from the inside of the block you can see it enters just within the line of the sump sealing face - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0133.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0134.jpg So, now I have to make a spigot to suit that I can fit into the hole in the block and be able to attach an oil return pipe onto it, so, starting off with some 7/8" round stainless bar - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0135.jpg And onto the lathe it goes - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0136.jpg One end faced off and turned down to size - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0137.jpg And turned around to machine the other end down to size too - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0138.jpg Bored up the middle to 5/8" (approx 16mm) diamater - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0139.jpg And that's the finished article - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0140.jpg Roughly held in place to give you an idea of how it will look - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0141.jpg So, with that out of the way it's time to clean the block up ready for painting, here it is before I started, not the worst block I've seen but still needs to be well cleaned before it can be painted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0142.jpg To clean it up, remove all the paint and any scales of rust I used this Sealey Air Needle Scaler, I've had it for years but never used it until now but I'm really impressed with the job it did - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0143.jpg First Side of the block cleaned up and you can see a noticeable difference - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0144.jpg Onto the second side, the back of the engine is never as bad as the front - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0145.jpg And all cleaned up - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0146.jpg After this I took it off the stand and washed it all inside and out with degreaser to get rid of any filings from the machining process and to wash it down ready for painting - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0147.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0148.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidrick Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 A genuine thank you for documenting your builds here. Giving enthusiasts a chance to see the processed that we wouldn't normally get a chance to. You also look like you do things the right way, something that seems to be rare nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I can only echo what others have said! These threads are fantastic? Who says too many photos?! I'd say you've got the perfect ballance! In fact, don't be shy! Can never see too many photos on a build like this! Very interesting!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig855S Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 That spigot, so much sexier than it needs to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 That spigot, so much sexier than it needs to beHAHAHA! I thought that! Was in awe when I saw it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksofstichill Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 A genuine thank you for documenting your builds here. Giving enthusiasts a chance to see the processed that we wouldn't normally get a chance to. You also look like you do things the right way, something that seems to be rare nowadays Thanks, I really enjoy doing the work and documenting it as well, if other people enjoy seeing what has been done and it gives them some ideas then all the better. I can only echo what others have said! These threads are fantastic? Who says too many photos?! I'd say you've got the perfect ballance! In fact, don't be shy! Can never see too many photos on a build like this! Very interesting!!! Many Thanks! I'm glad to hear you're finding these threads interesting, it's just a few people that have commented (not on here I might add) that they don't see the need for me to take photos of everything I do along the way such as painting bits and pieces, not to worry though, I'll not be changing my ways! That spigot, so much sexier than it needs to be Cheers! It's one of those things that takes "X" amount of time to make but just 1 extra minute spent on it can make it look so much better, I agree though, it doesn't need to be as shiny as I made it! More updates, sorry for the delay, it's just finding the time to sit down and do this but here goes - Masked off ready to be sprayed - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0149.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0150.jpg And spray painted with several coats of Simoniz Gloss Black Engine Enamel - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0151.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0152.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0153.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0154.jpg With the masking tape removed it's looking pretty fresh and ready for the build to start - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0155.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0156.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0157.jpg with the engine block all reworked it's onto the rebuild now, block flipped over ready for the crank to be fitted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0158.jpg Normally I would never recommend re-fitting previously used bearing shells, however this engine had only covered a very low mileage since a rebuild and the shells in this were simply pristine with no sign of wear at all so they were cleaned and re-fitted in the same positions as they were removed from - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0159.jpg Crankshaft Cleaned up and re-fitted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0160.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0161.jpg Thrust Washers/bearings re-fitted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0162.jpg Main Bearing Caps fitted with bearing shells - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0163.jpg Main Bearing Caps fitted and torqued down - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0164.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0165.jpg Arias Low Compression Forged Pistons and Cunningham Forged Rods all thoroughly cleaned up and they are like new, they look far too good to hide away inside the engine! - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0166.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0167.jpg http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0168.jpg First Piston being fitted, clamp fitted to compress the piston rings and the piston is eased into the fresh new bores - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0169.jpg No 1 Piston Fitted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0170.jpg No1 and No4 Piston Now fitted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0171.jpg With No 2 and No 3 Pistons also fitted that's all 4 pistons fitted - http://blackengineering.co.uk/images/Doctor-Evil-RS2000-Turbo-Engine-Rebuild/0172.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 It's always nice when you have your freshly machined, cleaned and painted block ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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