Well i was asked to play nicely with the young children so i will, i offered out an apology if i offended people and still the same ignorant people have to keep it going, and they say i cant offer up a good argument, go figure....least i was man enough to offer one up.... SidRick is about the only member who has a clue on what they are talking about here, so lets put the FACTS here for you so maybe some of you might have a clue what its all about..sure, offer up a good argument why RM should not go out on strike if you know the details, but the ones that started all the mud slinging in the 1st place place dont have the 1st clue why RM are walking out, you say its about pay and we knew the pay when we joined, well its called inflation, EVERYONE should get a pay rise in accordance with that, you think that when you join a job you stay on the same money for life, doh!! Competition: Someone raised the subject of this, well RM has lost its 300 yr old monopoly to be the only company to deliver mail and the door is now open to the likes of TNT, DHL etc etc to offer the same as RM, the main bulk of RM is business post believe it or not and these companies can now take a slice of that, RM wants to retaliate by offering what they call modernisation, this means doing away with night shifts, later start times in the mornings for posties, making your post late remember, shift allowances and bring in automation that will do away with 40,000 jobs, easy for you to say, oh well, get another job, but how many of you on here are having trouble finding a good job with good money and hopefully long term stability, i remember reading a post on here asking what you did, and i am sure a few said out of work still trying to find employment, and even one guy saying he went out of work for 8 months, and alot of you have said find another job if we dont like this one, not very constructive is it and I AM accussed of not offering up a good arguement. “The government has shown complete disinterest in the fate of this dispute. If this was Northern Rock they would be pouring money in. This is a company that they own and they seem to have no interest whatsoever.” The dispute is over pay, pensions and proposed changes to the business under Royal Mail’s so called ‘modernisation’ plan. CWU is concerned that these changes, which include later start times, later deliveries and the abolition of Sunday collections, will actually take the service backwards. Pensions: RM want to freeze pension payments in 2010 and bring in a new pension that will, as said, will lose me up to £60,000 and make me work till 65 for less money, how can some of you say thats ok....... when i compared our pension compared to others between a "bentley and a skoda", i was tols they would prefer the "skoda pension", second best, now why would you do that, does your retirement mean nothing to you? Now i cant be any more clearer than that can i, if you dont understand any of this, well, good luck in YOUR future and i hope you dont have to put up with the kinda shite we are right now, as for muture discussions, i read upto about pg 5 before answering some of your childish posts about us, what was it, arseholes, c*nts & wankers and you sit there and complain about my remarks?, think some of you need to grow up and get a life, and banning me Tom, well if Ian & Stu decided that, then fair enough, i cant argue, after all it is there forum/community but before you do, read back into the beginning of this topic and see what i had to put up with before retaliating, and at least i was man enough to stand up and say sorry to the other members for any remarks that was deemed innapropriate....constructive arguments, bring it on, cos all i have seen so far is immature crap from people who know sod all about the truth and facts of this matter but jump on the band wagon cos they think they are clever..........