heater

[Rockerrob666]

I have a mk6 escort with the aircon heater (if you can call it aircon, more like de-humidifyer) but when I put it to setting 1, i can't tell whether it's on or not. setting 2 and 3 are on but they have no guts to them, not what I would expect them to perform like. Also when I put the aircon on, it retards the engine noticably.

 

the main issue is with setting 1 atm. is everyone else's like this that it seems not to be working when on setting 1? do I have a knackered heater which needs replacing? or could it just be the solenoid in the switch?

 

quite tempted just to rip it out and replace but if they're all like this then I won't bother, just seems a little weak to me.

 

cheers

[demented]

I maybe getting confused with another make/model but I believe there is a resistor pack at the blower motor, possible under the bonnet on the blower motor itself, which fails and it seems to be always the No 1 setting which fails

 

However, I can't remember whether this is an issue that Escorts suffer from.

 

 

As for the air con, to be effective, when hot whether outside, (however unlikely) and to maintain a cool or cold interior, the setting should be set to 'recirculate' the cool interior air from inside and not to draw in hot air from outside.

 

The recirculate speed setting (anti clockwise) closes all vents which allow fresh air from outside to enter the interior.

 

Using the recirculate setting when cold and raining outside, especially if wearing a damp coat WITHOUT switching

the air con ON, the windows will mist up rapidly regardless of the heat setting.

 

So ideally, if air con is OFF, use normal speed settings (clockwise).

[demented]

Forgot to add,

My air con works fantastic, all fan speeds operate as expected.

Owned my Escort for 4 yrs, so I've experience a few hot summers, air con is super cold.

 

I've not notice any difference between the air con of my Escort to that of any other car I've owned with air con and

there is no difference in its operation or delivery to that of the air con fitted to friends or relatives cars.

[stoney]

switch its self used to play up speak to heavyrightfoot he used to have loads they was so common

[Rockerrob666]

Forgot to add,

My air con works fantastic, all fan speeds operate as expected.

Owned my Escort for 4 yrs, so I've experience a few hot summers, air con is super cold.

 

I've not notice any difference between the air con of my Escort to that of any other car I've owned with air con and

there is no difference in its operation or delivery to that of the air con fitted to friends or relatives cars.

sweet, cheers for that dude, only got the car last year and haven't had a hot day yet in it I usually use it with the aircon off and turned to the right, but with the ac on I've been turning to the right still, will have to stop that.

 

can you change the resistor pack without changing the whole heater. I have found an ac heater on ebay for £18, would that be worth going for? or am I looking at the wrong area, would I be looking at the switch area in the dash board. It's a pain that the heater was like this when I bought it, so I've never experienced it working properly.

[demented]

To be honest, I've never had any issues myself with the resistor pack.

I believe the resistor pack is attached to the blower motor and can be removed and replaced.

 

It appears that the resistor pack, is the same for all models, Puma, Focus, Mondeo etc.

 

Although the Escort isn't listed, I assume if the same resistor pack fits a Puma and Focus, it should fit the Escort.

 

As another member suggested the switch may also play up, it's worth attempting to by pass the switch first, ideally using a power probe. If you can operate all speed settings and the air con with the switch removed via the power probe, then you've identified it's the switch which is faulty.

 

New, the resistor pack appears to be expensive, so it may be worth seeing if it's possible to dismantle the resistor pack and replace the resistors, that's if you're any good with a soldering iron?

 

As for buying a blower motor for £18, if it includes the resistor pack, it worth buying unless you can find a resistor pack from a salvage yard.

 

I believe the blower motor and resistor pack can all be replaced from under the bonnet.

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150821817482;jse...7482%26_rdc%3D1

[Rockerrob666]

you are an absolute legend my friend!

 

now I know what I'm looking for I'll have a dive in the motor in the morning and check which one I have. I've saved a few different Ford types in my watch folder and match them up to existing.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if my existing has 'slipped' and 2 is 1 and 3 is 2. or something like that, that's what it seems like.

 

Some bugger has beaten me to it on the full motor and snapped it up.

 

with the switch, unfortunately, I don't have a power probe or any way of testing it atm, so it's gonna be a case of guessing and replacing parts till I get it right, none of the parts seem drastically expensive and I can always sell them on or keep them in my 'spares box' until needed. Planning on keeping this car till I hit a mid-life crisis and buy a lotus or something

 

cheers for that dude.

[demented]

I'm pleased I've been able to help.

 

ebay:

Power Probe £15 +pp

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120936592381?ru=...2381%26_rdc%3D1

 

Escort mk6/7 Air con switch £4.20 + pp

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190776191093;jse...1093%26_rdc%3D1

[stoney]

the swith is a fie minute job to change take off dash pannel+ couple of screws and those annoying clips that ping off every were!!! and about 2 or 4 screws for the switch quarter turn and pull it out....piece of wee wee

 

as i said before contact heavyrightfoot he used to break these and will have stacks of bits left...its not difficult saves you the hassel of ebay etc etc

[Rockerrob666]

I'm pleased I've been able to help.

 

ebay:

Power Probe £15 +pp

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120936592381?ru=...2381%26_rdc%3D1

 

Escort mk6/7 Air con switch £4.20 + pp

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190776191093;jse...1093%26_rdc%3D1

 

have ordered the power probe will see what that gives me.

[demented]

Hey, decent peice of kit, you won't be disappointed.

I've had mine, same one, for nearly 15 years, it's seen better days, still in good working order, it cost close to

£80 at the time.

[Rockerrob666]

Hey, decent peice of kit, you won't be disappointed.

I've had mine, same one, for nearly 15 years, it's seen better days, still in good working order, it cost close to

£80 at the time.

bloody hell, it shows how things have come down in price over the years probably with the advance in mass production. lets hope they're still made as sturdy. had to laugh, whoever bought the heater on ebay for £18 has relisted it, same pic, for £50!!! there's no decency left in some peeps. it was weird how it had been listed for 4 days, no interest and then was bought within an hour of me mentioning it on here, coincidence??? oh well, going to get mine working again, I'm pretty sure you guys are right in that it's either going to be the resistor or the switch.

 

will keep you posted on how the testing goes.

 

cheers dude.

[demented]

Found this on another web forum:

 

http://rs2000-16v.com/forum/showthread.php...-2-quot-setting

 

You'll have to register to read it.

 

http://rs2000-16v.com/

[Rockerrob666]

couldn't get onto the link you posted, but I have foun this on e-how:

 

Signs & Symptoms of a Bad Blower Motor Resistor

Poor heating or cooling in a car may be caused by a faulty blower motor resistor.

The resistor of the blower motor is responsible for transferring the electrical current that's required to move air through the vents of vehicle. Blower motor resistors can wear out; the blower motor no longer works correctly if this occurs. There are several symptoms that appear when the resistor of the blower motor is going bad. Recognizing these symptoms and replacing the resistor returns the airflow through the car to the proper levels.

 

1. Intermittent Operation

o When the resister of the blower motor starts to fail, the motor operates only intermittently. This often presents itself as the blower fan not kicking on until the engine is producing a certain level of electric current. The higher current can make the jump across the resistor contacts that are going bad and get the blower motor to engage. The blower motor could stop working again on longer road trips when the car is at a cruising speed and the electrical current of the motor drops again.

No Lower Settings

o The lower settings of the blower motor require less electrical current to engage. But when the resistor of the blower motor is failing, it creates a larger gap between the connectors. This gap may be too far for the electric current to travel across. When this happens, the lower settings of the blower motor aren't able to function. The top setting of the blower motor may still be operational.

o

Reduced Air Movement

o Reduced airflow is when the blower motor is trying to move air through the vents but the resistor isn't sending enough power to move the air with much pressure. The blower motor resistor is receiving power but not the full force. Reduced air movement can occur at all of the different speed settings of the motor blower. Depending on how much resistor is still functioning, the reduced airflow could be an intermittent problem.

 

 

Will check the switch as well, but this sounds like what the problem might be. just need to find out which resistor I have now - when it stops bloody snowing!! typical I need the heaters to stay warm due to the snow, but because of the snow I can't get there to fix it!!

[Rockerrob666]

How about that for irony, I took the resistor out today and it works fine! Put the power probe over it and checked continuity and current. The only thing I can think of now is a dodgyy switch, which will be changed on monday (new on arrived today but I didn't get time to fit). It's wierd that on incoming air, power 1 works when the ac is on but not when the ac is off. Hopefully the new switch should sort it! that powerprobe is amazing - why have I not bought one before??????