boostic Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ive been thinking about spraying the car once its finished and been asking about the place for prices.There is a body shop near my new house and went in to ask him how much it would cost to spray my car.He said it would be 800 quid minus the roofBut i was also thinking about maybe doing it myself and wondered how hard is it really if i get the equipment. As i need to do so panels on the golf too so it may save me a lot of money OR me cocking it up and costing me moreIve been reading some articles on spraying and read though the halfords one as well as others, but i noticed it says that you have to sand the last base coat down before you apply lacquer. Link Im Confused I thought your last coat was suppose to be a good coat not a sanded coat Could someone help clear this up? Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scort_CVH Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 dont know about the painting, but id suggest you steer well clear of attempting to paint a full car. If you dont get it right your paying for the equipment plus someone to respray it anyway. IMO of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluliz Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 It's harder than you think! I'm hopefully going to have a bonnet to practice on soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar_k Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 im not an expert but usauly the top coat is flatted before the laquer is applied, altough ive heard that its not advisable to flat metalics . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazer_d Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ive been thinking about spraying the car once its finished and been asking about the place for prices.There is a body shop near my new house and went in to ask him how much it would cost to spray my car.He said it would be 800 quid minus the roofBut i was also thinking about maybe doing it myself and wondered how hard is it really if i get the equipment. As i need to do so panels on the golf too so it may save me a lot of money OR me cocking it up and costing me moreIve been reading some articles on spraying and read though the halfords one as well as others, but i noticed it says that you have to sand the last base coat down before you apply lacquer. Link Im Confused I thought your last coat was suppose to be a good coat not a sanded coat Could someone help clear this up? Thanx Why don't you buy the equipment you need and buy a knackered car and practice, get good then do your car and if you get good enough you could advertise on here or your mates and you could make a pretty penny. Fraz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostic Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) Why don't you buy the equipment you need and buy a knackered car and practice, get good then do your car and if you get good enough you could advertise on here or your mates and you could make a pretty penny. Fraz The thought has crossed my mind but im out the army in 2 years when my new contract runs out and thinking of a spraying course for my resettlement Edited April 17, 2009 by boostic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 spraying in general isnt actually all that difficult, the method can be gotten to a degree of decency within a couple of hours practice depending on the type of paint used, flat solid colours being the easiest. on a entire vehicle tho theres certain added difficulties that require added skill and experience, for instance spraying a item that easily accessable from every required angle and can be maneuvered to better allow access is relatively simple to accomplish, even something as bulky as a bonnet can be removed, turned on its side, stood upright and laid flat to assist the process. unlike a removable panel the chassis frame, front & rear wings etc of a ford escort are not as easily accessable and certainly cant be maneuvered to better suit spraying and this is were required experience is a must. an experienced sprayer will be aware of the characteristics of the paint used and will know how it will react and take to different surfaces and angles and can adjust his spraying technique accordingly. by no means am I saying dont try if you really want to, its how I learnt for the most part, just dont expect any aspect of the process to be simple and straight forward or for your first half a dozen attempts to turn out anywhere near as good as you hoped at the start . As for your question concerning final base coat sanding, only the most experienced and skilled sprayers using the best of equipment can lay down coats of paint so fine and level that even the most minimal of sanding wont be required to flatten the paints final surface. Depending on heat, humidity, technique, paint viscosity, target surface and a thousand other factors paint will layer in a varied level of flatness as its sprayed therefore more often than not the final base coat will appear dull and unreflective due to minute bumps in its surface, to acheive an eventual mirror finish its often required for the final coat to be sanded with a very fine level of sandpaper (2000+) until its surface feels perfectly smooth to the fingertip. from this point there are two options for the next step, some will simply use a cutting compound (T-Cut and the like) to polish out the fine scratches left by the sanding until they acheive the finish they wish, others will layer a coat of clear lacquer ontop of the final sanded surface to acheive their mirror finish and also offer a degree of protection to their new paintwork. Hope that helps you decide bluliz, your colours from the same metalic range as my motors is (mines petrol blue-metalic) and Ill tell you for free, those particular metalic finishes are a fuckin nightmare to match, the closest Ive came across is tetrysol's match for these colours but the metalic flake content is near impossible to match. generally the finish will be almost a perfect match colourwise but on the sunniest of days you'll note the metalic flake difference, not really a big shitter itll just appear to sparkle more than the original paint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 One of the big problems with DIY is you won't necessarily see the problems until a few months down the road when the sub-standard prep-work starts to have an effect (sinkage, pitting etc).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluliz Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 bluliz, your colours from the same metalic range as my motors is (mines petrol blue-metalic) and Ill tell you for free, those particular metalic finishes are a fuckin nightmare to match, the closest Ive came across is tetrysol's match for these colours but the metalic flake content is near impossible to match. generally the finish will be almost a perfect match colourwise but on the sunniest of days you'll note the metalic flake difference, not really a big shitter itll just appear to sparkle more than the original paint I'm not really looking to colour match the pepper red I have picked out a handful of colours for the car IF i went down that route. But yeah I had a door sprayed and the match is good, but not perfect. Although the door has already been dented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty1979 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I did my first spray job about 2 years ago on an old mini down the side of my house under a makeshift shelter. Wasn't too worried about the final result but I was very suprised how it finally turned out. http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3811/picture447zr2.jpg http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4149/picture520lq8.jpg http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3836/picture919rn7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-van-man Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 i had my first attempt at spraying yesterday and i was suprised how easy it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 i had my first attempt at spraying yesterday and i was suprised how easy it was straight forward spraying is allways easy, gets gradually harder with size of target area and desired finish, but can be mastered with practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 try a 4 stage paint like mine then no way i would be able to do it hence left it to the pros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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