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Hi All,

 

Sure this has been asked before, but does anyone know how much an engine conversion would cost? In particular, an Escort GTI engine into a Escort Si?! Same year. I know nothing about engine conversions so i dont know if the gearbox, exhaust etc would swap over?!?

 

Even better, does anyone on here do conversions?

 

Thanks!

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Hi All,

 

Sure this has been asked before, but does anyone know how much an engine conversion would cost? In particular, an Escort GTI engine into a Escort Si?! Same year. I know nothing about engine conversions so i dont know if the gearbox, exhaust etc would swap over?!?

 

Even better, does anyone on here do conversions?

 

Thanks!

 

It's exactly the same engine mate :thumb:

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Hi All,

 

Sure this has been asked before, but does anyone know how much an engine conversion would cost? In particular, an Escort GTI engine into a Escort Si?! Same year. I know nothing about engine conversions so i dont know if the gearbox, exhaust etc would swap over?!?

 

Even better, does anyone on here do conversions?

 

Thanks!

 

 

aslong as its the same litrage then theres no difference between the si and gti engines...... or generally between the si and gti in regards to the entire cars.... just bits of plastic and some (ive waited so long to say it)... cow bum extra on the gti :thumb:

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Hi All,

 

Sure this has been asked before, but does anyone know how much an engine conversion would cost? In particular, an Escort GTI engine into a Escort Si?! Same year. I know nothing about engine conversions so i dont know if the gearbox, exhaust etc would swap over?!?

 

Even better, does anyone on here do conversions?

 

Thanks!

 

 

aslong as its the same litrage then theres no difference between the si and gti engines...... or generally between the si and gti in regards to the entire cars.... just bits of plastic and some (ive waited so long to say it)... cow bum extra on the gti :thumb:

 

Its nice cow bum though :)

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It should be a straight swap, mounts and boxes are all the same fitment, so just a case of swapping it all over. You'll want the manifolds from the 1.8 though, as they're specific to that engine.

 

To be honest though, if you're going to all that hassle, and can afford the insurance, I'd recommend going for the 2.0 from a Mondeo instead of the 1.8 from an Escort. You can use the bits from your 1.6 to convert the 2.0 to Escort fitment (it's been covered on here loads of times so have a search) and then you get 136bhp instead of 113bhp :)

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Yeah i had thought of that too mate, the old Mondy engine, but it all depends on cost as i just want a bit of extra poke, im not going to start spending loads of money on it or anything. Plus the current engine is on 151k and i'm mindful that its not going to last forever!!!

 

Yeah 140 bhp would be great, and if the cost is reasonable then i'll certainely go down that route, but if the cost is considerably more than the 1.8 swap then ill stick with that.

 

So yeah, if i could get an idea of costs for these then i can make a decision on what to go with. 8)

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I don't think it would cost you anymore particularly. You can use all the ancilleries from your 1.6 engine, so that's no bother.

 

2.0 engines seem to cost anything from about £50 to £200, just keep an eye on ebay or local breakers yards.

 

Which ever engine you fit, I would replace certain components as a matter of course. I'd do a head gasket change (you can check bore condition then too), then obviously change all the other gaskets while it's apart. Put a fresh water pump on while you're at it. The Mondeo one isn't any good anyway, so rather than using the one from your car (which is high mileage anyway), fit a new one, they're not ever so pricey. While the engine is out it's better to do all these bits and pieces, that way you know it's all fresh and should last you a while.

 

Based on that, I can't really see that the 2.0 swap would cost you anymore, unless the engine itself was slightly more expensive. The only expense may be that I'd switch to a 1.8 inlet and exhaust manifold, so you'd have to pick those up too. I've got a 1.8 one if you were to need it.

 

I'd say it's worth it, as the cost difference is negligible, and the car will feel much better, with more torque and power. My old 2.0 MK6 was good fun, much better than the 1.8s I've had :)

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Ah yes, but the thing is, i won't be fitting it, i'd want someone to do it for me. I could source an engine fairly easily if necesarily, id just need someone to do the work! Ie, the hard bit! haha

 

Time, lack or tools and knowledge being the main reasons!! The 2.0 conversion just sounds like it'll cost quite a lot labour wise, whereas a simple escort zetec to escort zetec swap would probably be more sensible cost wise?! Know what im saying?

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I do see your point to a degree. But, as I said, if you're going to the trouble of fitting a replacement engine, I'd do things like cam belt, head gasket, water pump etc etc as a matter of course, so you'll run into these expenses with you fit a 1.8 or 2.0, so the difference would be negligible.

 

Just ask someone very nicely on here to help out :)

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I don't think it would cost you anymore particularly. You can use all the ancilleries from your 1.6 engine, so that's no bother.

 

2.0 engines seem to cost anything from about £50 to £200, just keep an eye on ebay or local breakers yards.

 

Which ever engine you fit, I would replace certain components as a matter of course. I'd do a head gasket change (you can check bore condition then too), then obviously change all the other gaskets while it's apart. Put a fresh water pump on while you're at it. The Mondeo one isn't any good anyway, so rather than using the one from your car (which is high mileage anyway), fit a new one, they're not ever so pricey. While the engine is out it's better to do all these bits and pieces, that way you know it's all fresh and should last you a while.

 

Based on that, I can't really see that the 2.0 swap would cost you anymore, unless the engine itself was slightly more expensive. The only expense may be that I'd switch to a 1.8 inlet and exhaust manifold, so you'd have to pick those up too. I've got a 1.8 one if you were to need it.

 

I'd say it's worth it, as the cost difference is negligible, and the car will feel much better, with more torque and power. My old 2.0 MK6 was good fun, much better than the 1.8s I've had :)

 

2.0ltr engines can get a bit more pricey... :innocent:

 

an oil pump I found was the most expensive thing new!

 

2.0 zetec will run with the 1.6 exhaust manifold, and a 1.8 inlet manifold

 

2.0 power def way better than the 1.8

 

Ah yes, but the thing is, i won't be fitting it, i'd want someone to do it for me. I could source an engine fairly easily if necesarily, id just need someone to do the work! Ie, the hard bit! haha

 

Time, lack or tools and knowledge being the main reasons!! The 2.0 conversion just sounds like it'll cost quite a lot labour wise, whereas a simple escort zetec to escort zetec swap would probably be more sensible cost wise?! Know what im saying?

 

a garage with receipt wil prob want ~£500 to swap an engine over with a rebuild

 

I'd say there is little difference in cost of fitting a 2.0 over the cost of fitting a 1.8, both being zetecs

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engine swap over is easy regardless off CC like people av said, as all mount poisitions will be same etc,

 

My mate asked a garage just to put an unkown working engine in and they wanted £170 alone.

 

If it were my engine... for that bit of xtra performance...

 

Cam belt kit £80

head kit - £50 ( includes head bolts, new gaskets, valve stem seals )

Head skim, £40 - £50 - ( whislts the heads off pull out the pistons and clear out the junk on the oil control ring ).

3 valve angle performance £70 ( thats for all 16 valves )

Get all old valves re dressed for £60 ( free vacum test usally comes with this )

then fully washed, £5

New hydraulic followers £30

EVO member paid say £200 ( they would also help you get it running fine )

2 lire engine approx £100 - £300

 

Total approx of £845 at very most :)

 

Or £630 with head kit, payin a member to do it, and cam belt kit :)

 

sorted :) youll have a very pokey 2 litre :)

 

Where are you anyhows ???

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