TheKeymeister Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 This might sound stupid, but I'm seriously considering a TB setup with megasquirt etc The thing I'm struggling with is a cold air feed to the ITBs, is it worth running a pipe from the grille/usual inlet area, or would it be far eaiser to use a bonnet scoop? If so, how would I deal with incoming rain water etc? I know a bonnet scoop sounds chavvy, but it seems the most direct route to the inlet in this setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yes it's very worthwhile having an airbox for ITB's. It's a bit silly not to have one, but people that don't know better still do it! Bonnet scoop may be difficult to implement due to aerodynamics. It may end up being a vent rather than a scoop depending on its design and pressure zones. Jenvey do sell an airbox not for their ITB's but I don't think it's really big enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TJ- Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I wouldnt bother with ITB's unless you have the funds to finance it to be honest, ALL you get with them is extra throttle response. I would go down the bike carb route if your on a budget. Its much cheaper, and in all reality there isnt much of a difference between torque curves on live ignition mapped indies compared to mechanical ignitioned carbs. The biggest reason for the poorer plot graphs on bike carbs is that everyone goes for massive carbs, typically removed from the R1, which is no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I wouldnt bother with ITB's unless you have the funds to finance it to be honest, ALL you get with them is extra throttle response. ... and the additional power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TJ- Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I wouldnt bother with ITB's unless you have the funds to finance it to be honest, ALL you get with them is extra throttle response. ... and the additional power? Fitting indies has nothing to do with power, its all throttle going forced is the perfered choice for power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I wouldnt bother with ITB's unless you have the funds to finance it to be honest, ALL you get with them is extra throttle response. ... and the additional power? Fitting indies has nothing to do with power, its all throttle going forced is the perfered choice for power. Of course it's to do with power as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fekyo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Fitting indies has nothing to do with power, its all throttle ..............wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig855S Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I wouldnt bother with ITB's unless you have the funds to finance it to be honest, ALL you get with them is extra throttle response. ... and the additional power? Fitting indies has nothing to do with power, its all throttle going forced is the perfered choice for power. Hang on a minute? You own numerous performance cars and think that ITBs only imrpove response and dont improve power? What an idiot. turbos have their applications, and so do ITBs, hence why some performance car manufacturers use(d) them as standard, old BMW M cars for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 The primary benefit from port butterflies is increased throttle response (due to the proximity of the butterfly to the inlet valve) but they will give you a power increase if the original common plenum intake tract was a restriction (which is often is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tez162003 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 i did the Jenvey set up and got an additional 30odd bhp. how is that not a power increase, granted turbo's are far better for big power but a ITB engine is something else. always has grunt, no lag and the sound! In all -TJ- you dont have a clue, go do some searching on wikipedia, then come back when you know what your on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TJ- Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 itb's are fitted for the extra throttle response, not power. They do improve the power ( i never said they didnt ) exactly the type of responses expected from some 1990's moron ford escort owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 itb's are fitted for the extra throttle response, not power. They do improve the power ( i never said they didnt ) exactly the type of responses expected from some 1990's moron ford escort owners. Because you are unable to post anything on the internet without insulting people, i'll reply: I wouldnt bother with ITB's unless you have the funds to finance it to be honest, ALL you get with them is extra throttle response. Are you that retarded that you can't even read/understand what you type? (perhaps you understand this style of communication) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TJ- Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeWee Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Please dont reply with only smily's and refrain from insulting other forum users. Thank you. See rules: 2. Dont reply to posts with just smiles, or 'empty' posts. Its a waste of time, u dont get a free clock or anything for getting a load of posts, this rule is excluded from the jokes section. 7. Don't come onto the site just to try and stir things up, insult members, or post aload of rubbish. It could lead to suspending your account, or even a ban, the same treatment will be delt to people trying to 'poach' people from the site- proven, or otherwise felt, this can include links in signitures, blantant in their posts, and can include passages of text forwarded to moderators from other site members/ users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TJ- Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Please dont reply with only smily's and refrain from insulting other forum users. Thank you. See rules: 2. Dont reply to posts with just smiles, or 'empty' posts. Its a waste of time, u dont get a free clock or anything for getting a load of posts, this rule is excluded from the jokes section. 7. Don't come onto the site just to try and stir things up, insult members, or post aload of rubbish. It could lead to suspending your account, or even a ban, the same treatment will be delt to people trying to 'poach' people from the site- proven, or otherwise felt, this can include links in signitures, blantant in their posts, and can include passages of text forwarded to moderators from other site members/ users. I suggest you read the rules you so eloquently reminded me of kid, I wouldnt bother with ITB's unless you have the funds to finance it to be honest, ALL you get with them is extra throttle response. ... and the additional power? Fitting indies has nothing to do with power, its all throttle going forced is the perfered choice for power. Hang on a minute? You own numerous performance cars and think that ITBs only imrpove response and dont improve power? What an idiot. turbos have their applications, and so do ITBs, hence why some performance car manufacturers use(d) them as standard, old BMW M cars for example Does he get the same treatment ? Or is it one rule for one on a £250 banger forum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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