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Diesel wont start? Just cranking


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Last night my mate went to start my van to get it heated up for me, it started 1st time like it always does but after a min it conked out its done this too me before but never had any problem, anyway it now wont start at all :vangry: , it just turns over and over and i cant understand it, anyone any ideas? its a 1.8 na diesel in a 2000 van

 

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impertinent maybe but your not using crap diesel are you? as it tends to wax up pretty badly in this kind of weather

managed to get it tow started and now back to square one, was starting up no problem when it was warm now just cranking again, could just be with it being so cold outside

 

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impertinent maybe but your not using crap diesel are you? as it tends to wax up pretty badly in this kind of weather

 

 

even with waxing he should still get the occassional start attempt and not just cranking surely?.

 

Id say electrical issue, either your battery has taken a nasty hit (or even partly frozen) or even glowplugs.

 

Even the vastly less sophisticated 1940's diesels could be started in -40 degree tempretures, nowadays our engines are made more vunerable by the additional electronics fitted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tbh tho.......

 

comparing a T34/85 Russian World War Two medium tank in the depths of Russia's fiercest winter........ isnt really a fair comparison to a Ford Escort in slightly nippy Newcastle :pancake:

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I was thinking glow plugs, ive had dealings with quite a few escort and mondeo diesels and the glow plugs are somehting that can cause this.

 

Worse case would be the timing on the pump has slipped

 

we checked only 1 plug and that was ok so quite possibly the other plugs are knacked as it was firing straight up without hesitation when it was warm

 

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i'll have you know you old fogi that we seen minus 13 the other morning!

russia have raw vodka. we have anti freeze. lol

 

 

-13?

 

I never notice anymore, the joys of running a permanent almost feverious tempreture.

 

I could actually happily work all day long on the car in this weather without even feeling the slightest bit cold.

 

and btw -13 and -40.....HUGE difference.

 

ones "ooooo its a bit nippy init?"

 

the others

 

"why have my toes turned black?"

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if it starts fine when warm but not when cold i would be checking the power supply wire first to make sure that the relay aint packed up then move onto the glow plugs if all is well with the power :thumb:

 

just went out and unbolted all glow plugs, checked all plugs and they all glow nicely, put them all back and pulled the plug out nearest timing belt, left it on its power feed turned electrics on and no spark from it when putting it against the engine, fed a jump lead from the battery and attached it to the 8mm nut at the start off the feed for the plugs, rubbed the plug against the engine and it sparked and glowed, so looks like theres no power to the glow plugs, it still doesnt start though if i leave the wire on the nut before the plugs, should it?

 

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normally i would ask someone to hold a live for me from the battery to the wire where it joins the plugs jumper wire and crack it over, if it starts i would be trying a new relay. if you jump the live wire yourself then disconnect it before going to start it the glow plugs lose their heat very quickly hence the engine still not starting.
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