shawdreamer Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Right, I was talking on Msn with my brother-in-law last night and he sadly informed me that himself and my sister are now firmly separated (the relationship had been strained for a while) but that's not the subject of this topic. He's always wanted to get a xr2 again ever since giving his up just after meeting my sister (about 20yrs ago now) but like myself before I became ill couldn't really justify the added distraction in his life and chose to sacrifice his desire for family and work obligations (as we all do when we become parents or husbands to some extent). But now, with his daughter grown up (my niece) and his long term partner doing a bunk (as you may have guessed I'm not simply disregarding my long term friendship with the guy just because he's no longer with my sister) he now finds himself a little lost (tbf you can understand it given that the life he'd had for 20yrs has suddenly disappeared) and unavoidably lamenting on his loss. Now I'm 100% sure his xr2 desire hasn't diminished over the years and he'd love to get one again and bring it back to its former glory, I'm also sure that if I could locate a worthwhile project car and purchase it he'd be more than willing to dive into the project (and it'd distract him from the pain he's so obviously feeling right now). however, Even tho the mechanics between festers and the same era escorts are very similar and even identical in parts and setups so Id be familiar with them I however don't know what sort of costs Id be looking at as I haven't gone near festers and especially not the earlier ones. so I'm after general cost ideas lads, I know at least a couple of you lot have festers and can give me a general idea. roughly tho, 1. what is a decent price for the project car Ive got in mind?, even something as straight forward as a decent solid running shell? 2. shell/mechanical parts availability and costs? (I know as said some parts translate over from the escorts) 3. just how hard is it to come by genuine body panels,trim and kit parts (the latter being important if a genuine xr2 shell isn't available and we simply have to build up from non xr2 shell......tho I'm pretty sure there's no variation between the two) some ballpark figures will do for now lads, Ill get more precise if the project go's ahead obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 additional note: I will be joining one of the many fester forums if the project go's ahead but don't see the point atm (just to preempt the "join a fiesta forum" responses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganges Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 can not answer you question directly, but have you noticed the for sale section XR2I mk3 up for grabs if of intrest, sorry if i am teaching you to suck eggs, and yes I know you have stated a MK2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 can not answer you question directly, but have you noticed the for sale section XR2I mk3 up for grabs if of intrest, sorry if i am teaching you to suck eggs, and yes I know you have stated a MK2 aye I saw that thread and its what re-sparked the idea, but I'm certain his desire is for a mk2 (as his original was one and he never stopped loving the little boxxy nippy bugger)..... cant blame him either, I've always had a soft spot for them myself too. Its gotta be a fixer-upper too as he never got to involved in the mechanics of them and really wants to build it up himself if it was to happen....granted he has limited expertise in regards to car mechanics but its nothing I cant couch him through. already spotted a 1.1L Dreg popular on autotrader that would be an ideal shell donor if the add is to be believed (its still on the road and taxed till next year ffs) plus its shockingly under the 6ton mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganges Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 can not answer you question directly, but have you noticed the for sale section XR2I mk3 up for grabs if of intrest, sorry if i am teaching you to suck eggs, and yes I know you have stated a MK2 aye I saw that thread and its what re-sparked the idea, but I'm certain his desire is for a mk2 (as his original was one and he never stopped loving the little boxxy nippy bugger)..... cant blame him either, I've always had a soft spot for them myself too. Its gotta be a fixer-upper too as he never got to involved in the mechanics of them and really wants to build it up himself if it was to happen....granted he has limited expertise in regards to car mechanics but its nothing I cant couch him through. already spotted a 1.1L Dreg popular on autotrader that would be an ideal shell donor if the add is to be believed (its still on the road and taxed till next year ffs) plus its shockingly under the 6ton mark fair play, shows I was paying attention, all the best with the project if it gets off the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 can not answer you question directly, but have you noticed the for sale section XR2I mk3 up for grabs if of intrest, sorry if i am teaching you to suck eggs, and yes I know you have stated a MK2 aye I saw that thread and its what re-sparked the idea, but I'm certain his desire is for a mk2 (as his original was one and he never stopped loving the little boxxy nippy bugger)..... cant blame him either, I've always had a soft spot for them myself too. Its gotta be a fixer-upper too as he never got to involved in the mechanics of them and really wants to build it up himself if it was to happen....granted he has limited expertise in regards to car mechanics but its nothing I cant couch him through. already spotted a 1.1L Dreg popular on autotrader that would be an ideal shell donor if the add is to be believed (its still on the road and taxed till next year ffs) plus its shockingly under the 6ton mark fair play, shows I was paying attention, all the best with the project if it gets off the ground well going by the price it appears you can buy a donor or at least a shell and of course the brother-in-laws enthusiasm....it probably will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze4door Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 you can get good ones for under a grand as a few lads from the classic ford club i am part of have been lucky to find them cheap enough but for around 1500 you can get a decent mot'd and taxed xr2 one of the lads not long since paid this sort of proce for a black one then sent it off to chester sports car and spunked a load of money getting a zetec on bike carbs put on it GS escorts in widness had a blue one in for 1500 which was in really good condition, they also break rotters so will have plenty of spare parts available if you get a project car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 you can get good ones for under a grand as a few lads from the classic ford club i am part of have been lucky to find them cheap enough but for around 1500 you can get a decent mot'd and taxed xr2 one of the lads not long since paid this sort of proce for a black one then sent it off to chester sports car and spunked a load of money getting a zetec on bike carbs put on it GS escorts in widness had a blue one in for 1500 which was in really good condition, they also break rotters so will have plenty of spare parts available if you get a project car goodman. the motor Ive currently got my eye one if a seemingly nice straight motors, shows little to no panel damage and the seller says its just flashed through a recent MOT. granted its that tragic metalic baby blue and a 1.1 but that doesnt actually matter anyway in the whole scheme of things, but he's only asking £500 for it and I m pretty sure its a dealership so thats got me wondering what its like underneath that seemingly clean body. whats the usuals for a mk2? chasis legs?, Dean (the B-I-L) mentioned he'd had shitloads of welding done to his floor pan years back so Im guessing that that area can be an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig855S Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Does he want one that just needs TLC (but is roadworthy from day 1) or does he want one that requires lots of work putting in? It's not really a "restoration project" if its got a fresh MOT and no rot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Does he want one that just needs TLC (but is roadworthy from day 1) or does he want one that requires lots of work putting in? It's not really a "restoration project" if its got a fresh MOT and no rot aye the mot does kinda go against the restoration side. but we all know that modern day mots dont essentially mean a cars in good condition really. and afterall the mot will simply assure us of the running gear condition and underside general condition...plus allow me to nip across the 140odd miles and drive it back, rather than trailer'in the soddin thing. granted if I was to use this non xr model to create a xr it cant fairly be called a genuine restoration but the work could very well be comparable to a minor restore project. it'll be stripped down to bare shell and sprayed the typical white, black or red of the original xr2's before being rebuilt with recon'd or new parts were needed...which is kinda the same thing tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze4door Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 when my friend had his old 1.1cl it rotted in the inner wings and the chassis rails where they are curved up round the bulkhead apart from that its the usual sills and rear arches the same lad had an xr2 that he broke that was hiding alot of rot behind the kit so if you go for an xr2 that is where you need to check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortedal Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 had a few mk2 festers in my time shaw. even done a conversion to a 1600cvh from a 1ltr. very easy and basic engine swap. only three wires to extend from back of ohv engine to front right of cvh engine distributor. shells are basically identical on all mk2 fiesta variants. rot spots are inner wings, small triangle section to front outer side of front chassis rails. outer sills, inner sills( to rear of sills and tucked up near to where the rear susp mounts to under side), boot floors can be really bad. petrol filler cap area is also a bad spot as it rots from inside out. any mk3/4 cvh will work in it even a 1.3 or 1.4 but best with a 1.6. as will any mk5 non inj cvh fit, the mk5 inj has a different inlet port shape as compared to the non inj models on the cyl head.. most have the holes and what not to fit a dizzy as when unbolting the mk5 dist less system the bolt holes are there. you need the engine mount from the escort cvh to the rear on left of engine, you need the g/box cradle from the fiesta,( these mounts go all the time btw),gear linkage has to be from a five speed boxed fiesta.(cant remember if an escort 5 speed one fits.all driveshafts are the same as are all gearboxes from cvh or ohv. but best with the xr 5 speed box.early mk2 xr2 had a round top to the carb(these were the quicker ones) as opposed to the square ones on later models. all webbers.seats etc are all interchangable, body kits are easy to fit, you need to get a second fog light for the xr model as it has two.prices for cars are probably varied as per condition of cars and what your willing to pay for one.hope this helps out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScORTED Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 mk2 xr2s don't fetch big money yet, stunners are only £1500 ish if you hunt around, the costs would depend on the car cheapest would be to buy a rottern complete xr and a non rottern base model and build your own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 mk2 xr2s don't fetch big money yet, stunners are only £1500 ish if you hunt around, the costs would depend on the car cheapest would be to buy a rottern complete xr and a non rottern base model and build your own! aye thats what I was thinking, the motor Ive mentioned would basically be used for a shell donar and whatever usable parts on it. then its either by a fecked genuine xr (crashed,rotbox,non-runner whatever) strip what I want and bin the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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