mikes-fat-arsed-estate Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 does any one know whats the difference is between a gearbox in the 1.8 cabby & a 1.8 gti ? my cabby one has electrics on it but im stumped in what they are for ? box number is v111/1 tag 96w cbc fof 6e15 if that means any thing to any one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottybo Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 if it has a digi dash then there will be a sensor for the speedo i would have thought. there will also be a switch for the reverse light. all gti engines are 115bhp but the cabby engines change between the 3 different 1.8s i believe, if its a 130 then it will be an mtx75 box anyway which would be way different to the ib5 on your gti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes-fat-arsed-estate Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 cheers for the fast reply ive had to leave the car on a mates ramps , due to assuming the gear box would be fine the gti it came from & my cabby are both non digi dash , according to the car check my cabby is 115bhp so i would have thought it would have been a straight fit. nothings gone right today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottybo Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 should be an ib5 then in which case both should be interchangable. measure the diameter of the cabby flywheel, should be about 220mm which would match up the the ib5 boxif the flywheel is around 240mm then its been fitted with an mtx box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demented Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If considering to fit MTX box to the cabby and the cabby originally got the IB5 box, then the driveshafts will be different, also the spindle carriers. I believe MTX driveshafts are thicker than the shafts of IB5 box. I have a 99 Gti without digi dash and its still has a speed sensor and wires fitted where the speedo cable passes through and into gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes-fat-arsed-estate Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 right the only gear box i can find that looks identical to the one removed is this can any one confirm what it is , also alot of garages are saying my engine doesnt look like a original a early focus was there example or could it be a cabby thing or a cross over period ? its a 1.8 zetec with the egr on top were these used in the escorts? http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/allanmichealsmith/SC20140425-161738_zpszmsdtowu.png http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/allanmichealsmith/SC20140425-161733_zpswaka82ng.png http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/allanmichealsmith/SC20140425-161729_zps4jejmd3f.png http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/allanmichealsmith/SC20140425-161704_zpsqsh4qjbp.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottybo Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 They certainly were a few over the rocker egr that box looks identical to mine which is an ib5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes-fat-arsed-estate Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 so whats the difference between this and one from the gti model i got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demented Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yeah, I 2nd that, photo's of an Ib5 box. The mtx box has a lift up lever on the gearshift to select reverse gear. I'm guessing your Cabby is 130 model, which has the mtx box. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/STslayer/IMG_0048Medium.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/STslayer/IMG_0047Medium.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes-fat-arsed-estate Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 so i need a lb5 box, my cabby is not a lift up reverse like my tdi , so what box does the gti have ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demented Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yeah, If your cabby does not have a lift up reverse, then it should have a ib5 box, like the one in your photos, which is same as a gti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes-fat-arsed-estate Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 thats my problem mine from the cabby is the same as the picture i posted , but the gti one i recently bought does not have the same electrical connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demented Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 If only concerned about electrical connection, I wouldn't worry. Can only be Vehicle Speed Sensor & reverse light wires, I can't think of anything else. Just remove reverse light switch from cabby box and fit into Gti box, same with Vehicle Speed Sensor, if required. Personally, I dont believe the speed sensor is needed if your cabby hasn't got a digi dash. Although the VSS is currently fitted & connected on my car, when I was attempting to eliminate an engine revving issue, I disconnected the VSS with no adverse effects. However, I've read elsewhere on the Internet, that if disconnected it will cause the engine to enter into limp mode, which I guess is only relevant to yourself if your cabbys gearbox has a speed sensor fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersport Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 what year and what inlet manifold is on the the cabby? as the box pictured is a rear starter one. i know the early mk6's had the alloy inlet and front starter box on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikes-fat-arsed-estate Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 what year and what inlet manifold is on the the cabby? as the box pictured is a rear starter one. i know the early mk6's had the alloy inlet and front starter box on them.hi the cabby is a 96 im not sure what manifold is on but here is a picture of the engine http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/allanmichealsmith/Mobile%20Uploads/20140303_170431_zpsxyzv2sen.jpg i was thinking could it be a cross over period so is it possible it could have mk5 bits on?a closer look from when i 1st got it http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/allanmichealsmith/Mobile%20Uploads/SC20140427-191140_zpswmwoaoti.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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