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Lawrence Selly
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Go for the one that has everything ready to plug in. Also remember there is a HUGE weight penalty that comes with the rs2k engine

 

suspension and brakes should be upgraded to suit.

 

I can lift a complete zetec engine on my own. Me and a friend of mine struggle to lift an rs engine. I had one in the shed not ling ago

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Go for the one that has everything ready to plug in. Also remember there is a HUGE weight penalty that comes with the rs2k engine

 

suspension and brakes should be upgraded to suit.

 

I can lift a complete zetec engine on my own. Me and a friend of mine struggle to lift an rs engine. I had one in the shed not ling ago

Yeah I've got a friend on the lookout for some coilovers but I'm also looking at getting a custom air ride kit made from Rockz in Birmingham, hes doing me a quote for the front set and the compressor now. 

 

And as far as brakes are concerned I was going to go for an ST170 front setup if its possible, is there much fabrication needed? 

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And as far as brakes are concerned I was going to go for an ST170 front setup if its possible, is there much fabrication needed? 

 

Nothing more than enlarging the holes in the caliper brackets and using a few copper washers on the brake hoses.

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Id be more than happy to write up a how to if you would like. With as much detail as you like and lots of pictures!

Yeah that would be great ^^ I love how to guides XD 

Nothing more than enlarging the holes in the caliper brackets and using a few copper washers on the brake hoses.

Yeah I did read that somewhere ^^ thanks for the conformation.

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HAHA! yeah I saw the build log... so far ^^

one of the last comments was something like "the most epic thing about this project is the build time"

Its gunna look good when its finished though ^^ lets try and both get to Ford Fair 2015 ^^ we can have an Orion corner.

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If it was me then I'd go down the rs2000 conversion route too but only that's mostly because I know the engines well. Just remember that although some people might be offering "everything you need" make sure it really is everything.

The front subframe is different for mounting the mtx75 gearbox so you need that as well as the gearbox mounting for it to use that box. Also, if you're using the Rs box then you'll be using Rs shafts too so the drive flanges in the hub will also need to be Rs ones to be able to fit the shafts.

If you are offered an ecu and loom to go with it then that's great but make sure it is a mk5 non pats one to make the job more straightforward, the ecu code will most likely be 1agb for a non pats ecu, that's the one to use ideally. Using a pats equipped loom and ecu from a mk6 wouldn't be impossible but it would add a lot more hassle to the job compared the the mk5 one which should really be basically plug and play. I hope that helps....good luck with the project!

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  • 2 weeks later...

I think i'm going to turn down all the offers I have received then and look around for a cheap donor car thats had a rear end smack or rot failure. 

I've found on on eBay thats £400 and in surry, its and the engine out to be cleaned, so it needs a rebuild. And the whole car is in pieces pretty much. Would make the money back by breaking it. 

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RS2k bonnet is almost ready :D 

1 more coat of paint and it will be done, just got to buff and wax the crap out of the rest of the car so it all matches up! 

http://i.imgur.com/pmqsfzE.jpg

then i will bring the front bumper in to respray that properly in Dark Grey. 

Also do escort rear bumpers fit the Orion? or are they longer? if so I will have to hunt down a Ghia bumper. 

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Okay, its been a while. Done loads and loads of work and saved up some money ^^

After mulling over the option of dropping the RS2000 engine in or looking at something else.

Ive decided to look at something else ^^

The RS2000 is just too heavy, too expensive, and with less tuning parts avaliable not a worthwhile investment for the long term. 

So instead I've stayed with the Zetec family. 

And I would like to go with a 2.0 zetec from a mondeo, or if I find one a 2.0 turbo from a Focus RS.

So now I need a bit of info off you guys.

1. Has anyone done either of the conversions? pref into a low power escort 1.6 or something? and has pictures?
2. what is needed to swap the 2.0 mondy zetec into my Orion? (I think its just water pump, oil pump, oil dip stick, oil pick up pipe, induction system, 'lectrics)
3. How long is the list of things needed to drop the 2.0 turbo in? (obviously I will get one with all the hoses and whatnot to bodge it in myself) 

4. anyone got any opinions? would the RS2k engine be better?

I've weighed up that the RS2k's extra 20 horses over the stock 2.0 zetec's 130 does sound better, but with the higher center of gravity and almost double the weight i think it might actually be worse ^^

Also before all this happens I've got an ST170 set of brakes to fit and I'm on the hunt for some coilovers. Got a set of poly bushes coming too and a new set of wishbones and all that polava in the pipeline. 

Oh and I made a complete hash of the last coat on the bonnet, so I'm taking it down to my local body shop to get re-finished correctly. XD

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Just before my eyes close after trawling through forums and eBay. 

What other options are there for dropping in engines? Has anyone dropped a jap engine in successfully? There is a few knackered jap cars over at my local scrappy, no idea what engines but if anyone of you know whats been done I will investigate (the scrappy knows nothing about them, hes just got a Mondeo out for me to harvest the engine from and suggested I take a look at them) 

I feel a bit dirty now I've suggested using a jap engine... *shudder*

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