Sorry for slating your ibiza, im just not feeling them but i didnt mean to start a war or anything... plus im looking for a SE Sport A3, with all the goodies not a poverty spec thanks. My mate has one and i don't like it at all sorry (im pretty picky ha!) In all honestly is just a jazzed up rover 200/25 with much higher insurance... Im buying it because i really do love the lines of them, not just for the sake of it. plus once sat on some RS4's with stretched rubber and lowered 40mm (and sline kit) they look the dogs. plus they are a very nice place to be, anything newer that a 2001 with the updated dash, leather, climate control, ABS&ESP, BOSE sound, electric everything... like this: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/754110.htm I've got the money, but im not stupid. so it will be a 1.6 or 1.8 nothing to crazy with insurance. Self employed shop manager here so... I dont want anything to hi on insurance, which any BMW will be. Plus i want a 3-door and insurance would laugh at me trying to insure a coupe. I will have a look at them No fords thanks! and i dont like the 206's.....to girly!