130ps spec

[mattyd]

2 get a 115ps zetec going at 130ps, firstt of all, is it worth it, and would you need 2 use the 130ps ecu aswell as the 130ps maf throttle body and cams

[Ex-Finesse]

The 130 uses the 2L head, which has larger ports.

 

How much larger, and how significant, I don't know.

 

The 130 engine uses the earlier metal "EFI" manifold. The later 115 1.8 uses the plastic inlet manifold. Grab a 2L throttle body off a mondeo, otherwise you'll have to replace the inlet manifold to the earlier type.

[ploppy]

there are poo loads of mondies in breaker that r 2l. these are less likely to be ragged compared to 130ps xr3is too. u may be a while down the breakers trying to get a head off a mondy tho, but well worth it.

[marcus]

2.0 head is NOT the same as the 1.8 130 PS one!!!

 

heads are the same for the 1.8 engines!!!, the cams are different!!!

 

to make it running at 130, u need the throttle body, cams - these are the same as 2.0 items, ECU (might need the lockset to get this working as well)

 

EDIT: u also need the 130PS MAF

 

EDIT: eads may b the same for all engines but for the 105ps, im not sure on the valve sizes etc,i shall check but im 90% sure the heads are the same!!!

Edited May 26, 2005 by marcus

[Ex-Finesse]

So you're saying 25bhp increase from cams (which aren't proper performance cams imo, Fords would never make it like that), an different ECU map, and a slightly larger MAF and TB??

 

I don't beleive the TB is the restrictive part of the engine, thinking about air flow through this and the valves.

[ploppy]

would i get near the 130ps mark if i replace the whole top end with 2l items and the MAF and ECU?

[ploppy]

i.e. 2l MAF, tb, head, cams, ECU?

[marcus]

i.e. 2l MAF, tb, head, cams, ECU?

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NO, theres no need for the head!!! get the tb, MAF, cams and ECU

 

and ralph, thats exactly what im saying

 

115PS as standard, people add a air filter an gain upto 7bhp on the 1.8's dont they!!!

 

cams, t.body, MAF an ECU will get 130PS

Edited May 26, 2005 by marcus

[ploppy]

could i use a 2l ECU? wont having a 2l head increase the valve and port size hence more power if its set up properly?

[marcus]

if your goin to that much trouble, itll b easier to just drop a full 2.0 in there like i did

 

takin head off an stuff is hassle, specially if your mixing two engines cos u my have ot fart about with CR an all that (Dont quote me on that, just guessing)

[marcus]

So you're saying 25bhp increase from cams (which aren't proper performance cams imo, Fords would never make it like that), an different ECU map, and a slightly larger MAF and TB??

 

I don't beleive the TB is the restrictive part of the engine, thinking about air flow through this and the valves.

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just re-read this, the question is 115-130PS!!!

 

wheres the 25hp increase???

[ploppy]

well i was thinking of geting this lot from a scrappy, how can i tell if the cams are fooked?

[Ex-Finesse]

The 105 and 130 spec 1.8's, that's what I'm talking about.

 

The cams are barely worth taking note of imo...... you can only expect to gain 5bhp from a set of Piper or Kent's, which will be a lot lairer than standard........ the 130spec ones won't begin to compare to these.

 

Remember toonarmy??

 

He had a 105bhp 1.8, then chucked on a 130 TB, cams, MAF and chipped 130 ECU. It scored 118bhp........ that's a long way below 130, especially when it had the usual breathing mods 90% of cars on here have got. I reckon there's another factor (ie, the head).

 

115PS as standard, people add a air filter an gain upto 7bhp on the 1.8's dont they!!!

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***I need the crying "smilie" off PF***

 

£100 on those zetec engines producing more than 115bhp as standard.

[marcus]

toonarmy needs to get another 13bhp from cams and ECU, - that will b done with no problem

 

we aint gonna agree, the argument is gonna go on an on unless one of us proves it, i certainly aint, my engine is nearly done now.......

 

PMSL, brings back memories of this argument....... here!!!

 

you never did carry on that one???

[Ex-Finesse]

Toonarmy used the 130 cams and a 130 ECU that had been chipped. So therefore, it should make 130 absolute minimum.

 

That link, how is that an argument??

 

Can't see an argument there.

 

PMSL @ "the limit on a rebore is 1mm"