OBDII reader on android

[shawdreamer]

basically Ill be running a Bluetooth OBDII reader on my missus Saxo to test for suspected faults obviously but to also get an idea of its long term fuel consumption and general performance stats before its upcoming MOT date. (Partly due to my suspicion that its running a Vts/1.4 lump and not its previously advertised 1.1L when I bought it)

 

rather than hooking up a lappy for long periods of time Ive opted for the Android option running on the missus old Galaxy S so it can be lobbed in the glovebox on a lighter charging feed, that way I can just set it up to save its log files to it SD card and I can check it when it suits me. (also saves risking a chav doin a window to grab a easy lappy too)

 

The software/apps needed to run it on a android phone are both plentiful and easy to come by, so much so that I cant see the wood for the trees so to speak..... need to narrow the field down a bit, anyone done similar in the past and if so what recommendations do they have for the most suitable app?

[Craig855S]

I use torque (paid version) but ive only used it for live data feed (use it as a boost/IAT and other stuff gauge) so i cant comment on how well it reads codes like the volvo specific code reader would. I rate it highly so do many other OBD2 adapter users. I connect it to the car using an ELM327

[shawdreamer]

I use torque (paid version) but ive only used it for live data feed (use it as a boost/IAT and other stuff gauge) so i cant comment on how well it reads codes like the volvo specific code reader would. I rate it highly so do many other OBD2 adapter users. I connect it to the car using an ELM327

 

 

aye Ill be using a ELM327 Bluetooth adapter.

 

Think Torque was the most popular advertised App Ive came across so far, also has a good setup for longterm data logging, Ill admit I nearly went ahead a simply purchased that straight away from App Market/Play Store direct via the droid in question but it seemed a little excessive for my needs (not the price but the features) afterall it'll be primarily Data Logging so dont really require the fancy "Dashboard" features and the like that comes with it.

 

Saying that though, aslong as it does what I want and does it well Im not really fussed about wasting the extra features.

[Ahmotorsport]

Whats the engine code? I can tell you if it's a 1.6. Easy enough to identify if it's a VTS, it will have two cams.

[shawdreamer]

Whats the engine code? I can tell you if it's a 1.6. Easy enough to identify if it's a VTS, it will have two cams.

 

 

tbh I suspect it more likely to be a 1.4 as the rocker cover, air intake setup and throttle bodies vary between the 1.1 and 1.4 engines in a Mk2's...... this one has all the hallmarks and appearance of a 1.4 and despite it "only being owned by 2 previous mature women drivers & used only for casual purposes" there are a few small "give aways" that have became apparent on greater scrutiny.

 

Signs of scrubbage on inner wings... classic 17" wrong offset show

Exhaust system new from Cat to rear box.... but not mentioned in otherwise heavily described sale listing (no centre section either?, also ill fitted rear box clamp)

Rear Torsion bar suspension has been adjusted at some point to raise the rear slightly.... required to clear previously mentioned 17's maybe?

Closer scrutiny of listing pics showed it was sporting Clio wiper arms but was delivered with standards back on.... popular boy racer mod init bruv.

OEM but non standard to spec fitted rear spoiler.

Uprated HU bulbs.

Stereo wiring modified (badly may I add.... Mem & Perm live both on ignition feed, lazy inexperience mans fix/mistake)

Dash lit in neon blue when iirc this spec should be green?

 

there's a few other telltales that would normally go amiss if you didn't know what you was looking at but the most telling so far is its relatively uncharacteristic pace and acceleration which seems oddly excessive and strong for its advertised "1.1L" performance ratings.

 

put it this way, on what is left of the old air force runway near me (they recently started rippin it up so cant use it for top end testing anymore) it touched 100mph without really crying to loudly or struggling as much as a 1.1 should do imho.

 

Dont get me wrong its a tidy little motor and drives exceptionally well for an 02 reg french big feet hating car, there's no crash damage signs and only minor bumper scuffs, belly is clean and well coated with next to no rust anywhere too, just Ill need to know whether to give my mate a nudge and wink when I take her into his MOT place and the emissions go under test.

[Ahmotorsport]

Whats the engine code? I can tell you if it's a 1.6. Easy enough to identify if it's a VTS, it will have two cams.

 

 

tbh I suspect it more likely to be a 1.4 as the rocker cover, air intake setup and throttle bodies vary between the 1.1 and 1.4 engines in a Mk2's...... this one has all the hallmarks and appearance of a 1.4 and despite it "only being owned by 2 previous mature women drivers & used only for casual purposes" there are a few small "give aways" that have became apparent on greater scrutiny.

 

Signs of scrubbage on inner wings... classic 17" wrong offset show

Exhaust system new from Cat to rear box.... but not mentioned in otherwise heavily described sale listing (no centre section either?, also ill fitted rear box clamp)

Rear Torsion bar suspension has been adjusted at some point to raise the rear slightly.... required to clear previously mentioned 17's maybe?

Closer scrutiny of listing pics showed it was sporting Clio wiper arms but was delivered with standards back on.... popular boy racer mod init bruv.

OEM but non standard to spec fitted rear spoiler.

Uprated HU bulbs.

Stereo wiring modified (badly may I add.... Mem & Perm live both on ignition feed, lazy inexperience mans fix/mistake)

Dash lit in neon blue when iirc this spec should be green?

 

there's a few other telltales that would normally go amiss if you didn't know what you was looking at but the most telling so far is its relatively uncharacteristic pace and acceleration which seems oddly excessive and strong for its advertised "1.1L" performance ratings.

 

put it this way, on what is left of the old air force runway near me (they recently started rippin it up so cant use it for top end testing anymore) it touched 100mph without really crying to loudly or struggling as much as a 1.1 should do imho.

 

Dont get me wrong its a tidy little motor and drives exceptionally well for an 02 reg french big feet hating car, there's no crash damage signs and only minor bumper scuffs, belly is clean and well coated with next to no rust anywhere too, just Ill need to know whether to give my mate a nudge and wink when I take her into his MOT place and the emissions go under test.

Inlet manifold/exhaust manifold/Pistons/rocker gear all vary from 1.6's too.

Raised rear seems to be the thing to do now, seen loads do it, 17's don't scrub on the back, but as you say, wrong offset wheels on front would scrub the bottom hose to pieces, we found this even on an OEM set up if the hose wasn't clamped back, right out the way.

 

The other possibility is that someones had the beam off previously (arms are prone to wearing the beam away) and haven't set the height properly.

 

Aye, it hurts to say it, but i actually think they're pretty good, other than the beam i cant think of much that goes wrong with them, also apart from death in a crash.

[shawdreamer]

Whats the engine code? I can tell you if it's a 1.6. Easy enough to identify if it's a VTS, it will have two cams.

 

 

tbh I suspect it more likely to be a 1.4 as the rocker cover, air intake setup and throttle bodies vary between the 1.1 and 1.4 engines in a Mk2's...... this one has all the hallmarks and appearance of a 1.4 and despite it "only being owned by 2 previous mature women drivers & used only for casual purposes" there are a few small "give aways" that have became apparent on greater scrutiny.

 

Signs of scrubbage on inner wings... classic 17" wrong offset show

Exhaust system new from Cat to rear box.... but not mentioned in otherwise heavily described sale listing (no centre section either?, also ill fitted rear box clamp)

Rear Torsion bar suspension has been adjusted at some point to raise the rear slightly.... required to clear previously mentioned 17's maybe?

Closer scrutiny of listing pics showed it was sporting Clio wiper arms but was delivered with standards back on.... popular boy racer mod init bruv.

OEM but non standard to spec fitted rear spoiler.

Uprated HU bulbs.

Stereo wiring modified (badly may I add.... Mem & Perm live both on ignition feed, lazy inexperience mans fix/mistake)

Dash lit in neon blue when iirc this spec should be green?

 

there's a few other telltales that would normally go amiss if you didn't know what you was looking at but the most telling so far is its relatively uncharacteristic pace and acceleration which seems oddly excessive and strong for its advertised "1.1L" performance ratings.

 

put it this way, on what is left of the old air force runway near me (they recently started rippin it up so cant use it for top end testing anymore) it touched 100mph without really crying to loudly or struggling as much as a 1.1 should do imho.

 

Dont get me wrong its a tidy little motor and drives exceptionally well for an 02 reg french big feet hating car, there's no crash damage signs and only minor bumper scuffs, belly is clean and well coated with next to no rust anywhere too, just Ill need to know whether to give my mate a nudge and wink when I take her into his MOT place and the emissions go under test.

Inlet manifold/exhaust manifold/Pistons/rocker gear all vary from 1.6's too.

Raised rear seems to be the thing to do now, seen loads do it, 17's don't scrub on the back, but as you say, wrong offset wheels on front would scrub the bottom hose to pieces, we found this even on an OEM set up if the hose wasn't clamped back, right out the way.

 

The other possibility is that someones had the beam off previously (arms are prone to wearing the beam away) and haven't set the height properly.

 

Aye, it hurts to say it, but i actually think they're pretty good, other than the beam i cant think of much that goes wrong with them, also apart from death in a crash.

 

 

oh the dying in a crash in one doesnt bother me as you'd think....... aslong as my body is mangled beyond recogniton so no one knows its me who was driving a FrenchFuckSaxo Ill be ok...... dead....... but ok.

[Ahmotorsport]

Whats the engine code? I can tell you if it's a 1.6. Easy enough to identify if it's a VTS, it will have two cams.

 

 

tbh I suspect it more likely to be a 1.4 as the rocker cover, air intake setup and throttle bodies vary between the 1.1 and 1.4 engines in a Mk2's...... this one has all the hallmarks and appearance of a 1.4 and despite it "only being owned by 2 previous mature women drivers & used only for casual purposes" there are a few small "give aways" that have became apparent on greater scrutiny.

 

Signs of scrubbage on inner wings... classic 17" wrong offset show

Exhaust system new from Cat to rear box.... but not mentioned in otherwise heavily described sale listing (no centre section either?, also ill fitted rear box clamp)

Rear Torsion bar suspension has been adjusted at some point to raise the rear slightly.... required to clear previously mentioned 17's maybe?

Closer scrutiny of listing pics showed it was sporting Clio wiper arms but was delivered with standards back on.... popular boy racer mod init bruv.

OEM but non standard to spec fitted rear spoiler.

Uprated HU bulbs.

Stereo wiring modified (badly may I add.... Mem & Perm live both on ignition feed, lazy inexperience mans fix/mistake)

Dash lit in neon blue when iirc this spec should be green?

 

there's a few other telltales that would normally go amiss if you didn't know what you was looking at but the most telling so far is its relatively uncharacteristic pace and acceleration which seems oddly excessive and strong for its advertised "1.1L" performance ratings.

 

put it this way, on what is left of the old air force runway near me (they recently started rippin it up so cant use it for top end testing anymore) it touched 100mph without really crying to loudly or struggling as much as a 1.1 should do imho.

 

Dont get me wrong its a tidy little motor and drives exceptionally well for an 02 reg french big feet hating car, there's no crash damage signs and only minor bumper scuffs, belly is clean and well coated with next to no rust anywhere too, just Ill need to know whether to give my mate a nudge and wink when I take her into his MOT place and the emissions go under test.

Inlet manifold/exhaust manifold/Pistons/rocker gear all vary from 1.6's too.

Raised rear seems to be the thing to do now, seen loads do it, 17's don't scrub on the back, but as you say, wrong offset wheels on front would scrub the bottom hose to pieces, we found this even on an OEM set up if the hose wasn't clamped back, right out the way.

 

The other possibility is that someones had the beam off previously (arms are prone to wearing the beam away) and haven't set the height properly.

 

Aye, it hurts to say it, but i actually think they're pretty good, other than the beam i cant think of much that goes wrong with them, also apart from death in a crash.

 

 

oh the dying in a crash in one doesnt bother me as you'd think....... aslong as my body is mangled beyond recogniton so no one knows its me who was driving a FrenchFuckSaxo Ill be ok...... dead....... but ok.

Haha! Thought "The missus would be driving" was gonna come out xD

[shawdreamer]

Whats the engine code? I can tell you if it's a 1.6. Easy enough to identify if it's a VTS, it will have two cams.

 

 

tbh I suspect it more likely to be a 1.4 as the rocker cover, air intake setup and throttle bodies vary between the 1.1 and 1.4 engines in a Mk2's...... this one has all the hallmarks and appearance of a 1.4 and despite it "only being owned by 2 previous mature women drivers & used only for casual purposes" there are a few small "give aways" that have became apparent on greater scrutiny.

 

Signs of scrubbage on inner wings... classic 17" wrong offset show

Exhaust system new from Cat to rear box.... but not mentioned in otherwise heavily described sale listing (no centre section either?, also ill fitted rear box clamp)

Rear Torsion bar suspension has been adjusted at some point to raise the rear slightly.... required to clear previously mentioned 17's maybe?

Closer scrutiny of listing pics showed it was sporting Clio wiper arms but was delivered with standards back on.... popular boy racer mod init bruv.

OEM but non standard to spec fitted rear spoiler.

Uprated HU bulbs.

Stereo wiring modified (badly may I add.... Mem & Perm live both on ignition feed, lazy inexperience mans fix/mistake)

Dash lit in neon blue when iirc this spec should be green?

 

there's a few other telltales that would normally go amiss if you didn't know what you was looking at but the most telling so far is its relatively uncharacteristic pace and acceleration which seems oddly excessive and strong for its advertised "1.1L" performance ratings.

 

put it this way, on what is left of the old air force runway near me (they recently started rippin it up so cant use it for top end testing anymore) it touched 100mph without really crying to loudly or struggling as much as a 1.1 should do imho.

 

Dont get me wrong its a tidy little motor and drives exceptionally well for an 02 reg french big feet hating car, there's no crash damage signs and only minor bumper scuffs, belly is clean and well coated with next to no rust anywhere too, just Ill need to know whether to give my mate a nudge and wink when I take her into his MOT place and the emissions go under test.

Inlet manifold/exhaust manifold/Pistons/rocker gear all vary from 1.6's too.

Raised rear seems to be the thing to do now, seen loads do it, 17's don't scrub on the back, but as you say, wrong offset wheels on front would scrub the bottom hose to pieces, we found this even on an OEM set up if the hose wasn't clamped back, right out the way.

 

The other possibility is that someones had the beam off previously (arms are prone to wearing the beam away) and haven't set the height properly.

 

Aye, it hurts to say it, but i actually think they're pretty good, other than the beam i cant think of much that goes wrong with them, also apart from death in a crash.

 

 

oh the dying in a crash in one doesnt bother me as you'd think....... aslong as my body is mangled beyond recogniton so no one knows its me who was driving a FrenchFuckSaxo Ill be ok...... dead....... but ok.

Haha! Thought "The missus would be driving" was gonna come out xD

 

 

well with the escort currently in various degrees of pieces I occassionally use it.... just not during the day.... or anywhere where someone I might know would possibly see me.

[Ahmotorsport]

Whats the engine code? I can tell you if it's a 1.6. Easy enough to identify if it's a VTS, it will have two cams.

 

 

tbh I suspect it more likely to be a 1.4 as the rocker cover, air intake setup and throttle bodies vary between the 1.1 and 1.4 engines in a Mk2's...... this one has all the hallmarks and appearance of a 1.4 and despite it "only being owned by 2 previous mature women drivers & used only for casual purposes" there are a few small "give aways" that have became apparent on greater scrutiny.

 

Signs of scrubbage on inner wings... classic 17" wrong offset show

Exhaust system new from Cat to rear box.... but not mentioned in otherwise heavily described sale listing (no centre section either?, also ill fitted rear box clamp)

Rear Torsion bar suspension has been adjusted at some point to raise the rear slightly.... required to clear previously mentioned 17's maybe?

Closer scrutiny of listing pics showed it was sporting Clio wiper arms but was delivered with standards back on.... popular boy racer mod init bruv.

OEM but non standard to spec fitted rear spoiler.

Uprated HU bulbs.

Stereo wiring modified (badly may I add.... Mem & Perm live both on ignition feed, lazy inexperience mans fix/mistake)

Dash lit in neon blue when iirc this spec should be green?

 

there's a few other telltales that would normally go amiss if you didn't know what you was looking at but the most telling so far is its relatively uncharacteristic pace and acceleration which seems oddly excessive and strong for its advertised "1.1L" performance ratings.

 

put it this way, on what is left of the old air force runway near me (they recently started rippin it up so cant use it for top end testing anymore) it touched 100mph without really crying to loudly or struggling as much as a 1.1 should do imho.

 

Dont get me wrong its a tidy little motor and drives exceptionally well for an 02 reg french big feet hating car, there's no crash damage signs and only minor bumper scuffs, belly is clean and well coated with next to no rust anywhere too, just Ill need to know whether to give my mate a nudge and wink when I take her into his MOT place and the emissions go under test.

Inlet manifold/exhaust manifold/Pistons/rocker gear all vary from 1.6's too.

Raised rear seems to be the thing to do now, seen loads do it, 17's don't scrub on the back, but as you say, wrong offset wheels on front would scrub the bottom hose to pieces, we found this even on an OEM set up if the hose wasn't clamped back, right out the way.

 

The other possibility is that someones had the beam off previously (arms are prone to wearing the beam away) and haven't set the height properly.

 

Aye, it hurts to say it, but i actually think they're pretty good, other than the beam i cant think of much that goes wrong with them, also apart from death in a crash.

 

 

oh the dying in a crash in one doesnt bother me as you'd think....... aslong as my body is mangled beyond recogniton so no one knows its me who was driving a FrenchFuckSaxo Ill be ok...... dead....... but ok.

Haha! Thought "The missus would be driving" was gonna come out xD

 

 

well with the escort currently in various degrees of pieces I occassionally use it.... just not during the day.... or anywhere where someone I might know would possibly see me.

Just hold a picture of someone else up.

[shawdreamer]

"shite a speed cam"...

 

 

 

 

.... <bill oddie>

[caled]

Aye, it hurts to say it, but i actually think they're pretty good, other than the beam i cant think of much that goes wrong with them, also apart from death in a crash.

 

Really?!

My missus' mum has a 52 plate 1.1 and Im constantly fixing the damn thing. Most worrying is I suspect the metal may have been rather poor quality to start with - assuming a pensioner hasn't managed to pull apart the door holding mechanism with her bare hands. The cam belt recently failed to - well, I say cam belt, the teeth on pulley were actually foobared.

 

Also, another vote for Torque. Very popular on the MG forums.

[scottg17]

I had a 1.1, was throwing money at it on a weekly biases, poor starting when cold, Cut out when hot

 

Had to replace... in the space of a month

 

Fuel Pump

Head gasket.... twice!

shocks

Every Engine sensor to try and solve the cutting out.

Drive-shaft Oil seals were leaking

Leaky door seals

alternator

 

Step sister has a VTR, same story with her

 

clutch twice!

Rear Axle

Radiator

Water pump

Head gasket

Heater Matrix

ECU

 

List goes on really

Probably good little track cars but as a reliable everyday run around I don't really rate them

 

Lol back on track as well.. almost forgot what this thread was about..... Torque is really good

Edited April 15, 2012 by scottg17

[Ahmotorsport]

Well they rarely went wrong when we put em together

[shawdreamer]

Aye, it hurts to say it, but i actually think they're pretty good, other than the beam i cant think of much that goes wrong with them, also apart from death in a crash.

 

Really?!

My missus' mum has a 52 plate 1.1 and Im constantly fixing the damn thing. Most worrying is I suspect the metal may have been rather poor quality to start with - assuming a pensioner hasn't managed to pull apart the door holding mechanism with her bare hands. The cam belt recently failed to - well, I say cam belt, the teeth on pulley were actually foobared.

 

Also, another vote for Torque. Very popular on the MG forums.

 

does hers show any of the driving (speed/accel) characteristics I mentioned?

 

as a 1.1L Id have expected it to at best to be a little nippy about town but certianly not how my missus feels.... Im guessin it would have hit 115-120mph if it had had a bigger run which cant be right out a 10yr old 1.1L surely?