warrior Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi, I'm trying to get the rear and front door glass out of my MK3 Orion which I know is the same as the MK5 Escort etc..i took all the panel off, took the rubbers away from window frame, so all i need to know now is how do i remove the glass? it's got this little silver star looking nut thing securing the window to the brace thing, hard to explain, im hoping someone here knows how to do it, noone on the Orion Register knows how to do it it seems like..thanks in advance for the help If i get the glass out so i can use it, it'll save me tons of dosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi, I'm trying to get the rear and front door glass out of my MK3 Orion which I know is the same as the MK5 Escort etc..i took all the panel off, took the rubbers away from window frame, so all i need to know now is how do i remove the glass? it's got this little silver star looking nut thing securing the window to the brace thing, hard to explain, im hoping someone here knows how to do it, noone on the Orion Register knows how to do it it seems like..thanks in advance for the help If i get the glass out so i can use it, it'll save me tons of dosh. If its the same as a Mk5 then you either need to wind the window right up or right down. once done you'll be able to access two torque bolts through two holes in the inner panel, taking these out releases the glass from the regulator, then its just a case of winding the window down (or up depending on which way you did it) so that you can take hold of the upper glass edge then just wind the regulator back down while you hold onto the glass (the two will separate) after that its just some careful tilting and angling to get the glass up and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 The two "star" bolts you refer to are (as shaw said) torx bolts... You can pick up a torx set from any motorfactors, or just hammer a smaller socket onto them. Then just as shaw said to remove.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi, I'm trying to get the rear and front door glass out of my MK3 Orion which I know is the same as the MK5 Escort etc..i took all the panel off, took the rubbers away from window frame, so all i need to know now is how do i remove the glass? it's got this little silver star looking nut thing securing the window to the brace thing, hard to explain, im hoping someone here knows how to do it, noone on the Orion Register knows how to do it it seems like..thanks in advance for the help If i get the glass out so i can use it, it'll save me tons of dosh. If its the same as a Mk5 then you either need to wind the window right up or right down. once done you'll be able to access two torque bolts through two holes in the inner panel, taking these out releases the glass from the regulator, then its just a case of winding the window down (or up depending on which way you did it) so that you can take hold of the upper glass edge then just wind the regulator back down while you hold onto the glass (the two will separate) after that its just some careful tilting and angling to get the glass up and out. Here is the Rear passenger side door, been trying to take out., so am i correct in saying i wind all the way up so window is closed then find some bolts to undo? cos im baffled by it..is the star thing in the pictures ive put up those TORX things ??http://imageshack.us/a/img33/9496/20121025162513.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img5/5734/20121025162357.jpg also, might be just stuck to the rubber where its been in the car so long, would it help if i put somin like wd40 so it slides out of the regulator arm thing? im thinking now its just stuck in there etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi, I'm trying to get the rear and front door glass out of my MK3 Orion which I know is the same as the MK5 Escort etc..i took all the panel off, took the rubbers away from window frame, so all i need to know now is how do i remove the glass? it's got this little silver star looking nut thing securing the window to the brace thing, hard to explain, im hoping someone here knows how to do it, noone on the Orion Register knows how to do it it seems like..thanks in advance for the help If i get the glass out so i can use it, it'll save me tons of dosh. If its the same as a Mk5 then you either need to wind the window right up or right down. once done you'll be able to access two torque bolts through two holes in the inner panel, taking these out releases the glass from the regulator, then its just a case of winding the window down (or up depending on which way you did it) so that you can take hold of the upper glass edge then just wind the regulator back down while you hold onto the glass (the two will separate) after that its just some careful tilting and angling to get the glass up and out. Here is the Rear passenger side door, been trying to take out., so am i correct in saying i wind all the way up so window is closed then find some bolts to undo? cos im baffled by it..is the star thing in the pictures ive put up those TORX things ??http://imageshack.us/a/img33/9496/20121025162513.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img5/5734/20121025162357.jpg also, might be just stuck to the rubber where its been in the car so long, would it help if i put somin like wd40 so it slides out of the regulator arm thing? im thinking now its just stuck in there etc.. erm Im afraid thats a impact head rivet not a torque bolt, they only come out with some serious drilling. from the looks of it that isnt like the mk5 setup, unless theres some form of bolt holding the glass onto the top of the regulator then its bonded in..... which is not an easy thing to get out, especially with the glass in one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersport Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 i'll have a look at my MK5 this week and tell you how to get them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 i'll have a look at my MK5 this week and tell you how to get them out. that would help soo sooooo much thanks.. Hi, I'm trying to get the rear and front door glass out of my MK3 Orion which I know is the same as the MK5 Escort etc..i took all the panel off, took the rubbers away from window frame, so all i need to know now is how do i remove the glass? it's got this little silver star looking nut thing securing the window to the brace thing, hard to explain, im hoping someone here knows how to do it, noone on the Orion Register knows how to do it it seems like..thanks in advance for the help If i get the glass out so i can use it, it'll save me tons of dosh. If its the same as a Mk5 then you either need to wind the window right up or right down. once done you'll be able to access two torque bolts through two holes in the inner panel, taking these out releases the glass from the regulator, then its just a case of winding the window down (or up depending on which way you did it) so that you can take hold of the upper glass edge then just wind the regulator back down while you hold onto the glass (the two will separate) after that its just some careful tilting and angling to get the glass up and out. Here is the Rear passenger side door, been trying to take out., so am i correct in saying i wind all the way up so window is closed then find some bolts to undo? cos im baffled by it..is the star thing in the pictures ive put up those TORX things ??http://imageshack.us/a/img33/9496/20121025162513.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img5/5734/20121025162357.jpg also, might be just stuck to the rubber where its been in the car so long, would it help if i put somin like wd40 so it slides out of the regulator arm thing? im thinking now its just stuck in there etc.. erm Im afraid thats a impact head rivet not a torque bolt, they only come out with some serious drilling. from the looks of it that isnt like the mk5 setup, unless theres some form of bolt holding the glass onto the top of the regulator then its bonded in..... which is not an easy thing to get out, especially with the glass in one piece. well im having another look tomorrow, cos i got a feeling that its just sitting in the arm inside some rubber that has probably become more attached to the glass than katie price is to money and plastic surgery lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 i'll have a look at my MK5 this week and tell you how to get them out. did u look at ur mk5 at all supersport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo2000 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 i'll have a look at my MK5 this week and tell you how to get them out. did u look at ur mk5 at all supersport? IIRC Those should slide out of the end of the runner they are in, you need to disconnect something else first though, it is completely possible without drilling anything. It's been a while since I did this and don't have a car I can look at to remind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 i'll have a look at my MK5 this week and tell you how to get them out. did u look at ur mk5 at all supersport? IIRC Those should slide out of the end of the runner they are in, you need to disconnect something else first though, it is completely possible without drilling anything. It's been a while since I did this and don't have a car I can look at to remind me. hmmm, so ur saying the blue plastic runner thing comes out of the silver regulator arm by moving something else out of the way?? did i read u correctly there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo2000 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 i'll have a look at my MK5 this week and tell you how to get them out. did u look at ur mk5 at all supersport? IIRC Those should slide out of the end of the runner they are in, you need to disconnect something else first though, it is completely possible without drilling anything. It's been a while since I did this and don't have a car I can look at to remind me. hmmm, so ur saying the blue plastic runner thing comes out of the silver regulator arm by moving something else out of the way?? did i read u correctly there?Yes, pretty much, can you take a picture of the entire door with the window down ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 hmmm, so ur saying the blue plastic runner thing comes out of the silver regulator arm by moving something else out of the way?? did i read u correctly there?Yes, pretty much, can you take a picture of the entire door with the window down ? ok ill go out to car in the daylight tomorrow and take one, ill post up a pic now if i got any of the door..not sure about full door pics tho.. http://imageshack.us/a/img401/243/20121025162348.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo2000 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 ok ill go out to car in the daylight tomorrow and take one, ill post up a pic now if i got any of the door..not sure about full door pics tho.. http://imageshack.us/a/img401/243/20121025162348.jpgCan you take a straight on pic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersport Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 i'll have a look at mine tomorrow. also you should get a haynes book of lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdreamer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 i'll have a look at mine tomorrow. also you should get a haynes book of lies.he's got one......... bottom of above pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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