ScORTED Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 PATS (Passive Anti Theft System) thatcham CAT2 aproved immobaliser Non PATSbefore pats was introduced in 1992 there were zetecs built without pats but only 1.8s and maybe some 1.6s however i know of no non pats 2.0 ecusPrior to the installation of pats ford could be hotwired very easily or the ignition could be forced etc External PATSpats was introduced in 1992 as "external pats" where the pats system was seperate from the ecu and as such you could change the ecus and the pats was unaffected. external pats ecus take a signal from the pats module to say the chipped keys are present and it will then start the car. this can easily be bypassed with a live feed to the pats trigger on the ecu, this made the cars harder to steal, even now most amatuer thieves would be stopped by external pats Internal PATSaround 1995 ford changed the pats system to "internal pats" which as the name suggests the pats system was incorporated inside the ecu and changing ecu is a ball ache involving swapping keys or chips and the pats sensor etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onehotminute_191 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 good to know. what made you write this up then? also, would the 2litre ecu be refered to as non-pats, or external pats, because wouldnt external technicaly also mean not incorporated in the ecu? is that winding you up lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScORTED Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 its external pats the 2.0s (desk deep dewy)and it does have pats as if you plug an external pats ecu in a non pats car or visa-versa it won't run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reid Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 good to know. what made you write this up then?because people put pre pats im guessing when its not (ie myself ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScORTED Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 not just you reidy boy... everyone seems to write it and i've mentioned it in a few threads, just thought i'd clear it up for everyone :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Stuff went to internal PATS late 93. Depends on the car though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScORTED Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 This should be a sticky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naylor2006 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I can only assume that the pre pats term came about to refer to an ECU that didn't have internal pats fitted as they came later. It's come from somewhere and it does make some sense, not as much as being being specific obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo2000 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 This should be a stickyOh, go on then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo2000 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Topic cleaned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiffy1986 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I have a mk5b 1.6si, and I'm pretty sure that's external pats, im doing an engine swap to a 1.8 130, and have a 1.8 130 ECU from an early mk6, and a 2.0 mondeo ecu from a 1998 model, both with keys. I also have external edis on mine. Am I right in saying im going to have to rewire the whole system to run either of the later ecu's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottybo Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Whats the code on the 130 ecu as there was no mk6 130. For the mondeo ecu yes you will have to change the pins. Pre pats ecu's r a million times easier to work with though If yours is a mk5b and your struggling with the ecu's, i have a mk5b 130 ecu here with key and transponder which would plug in without any wirin alterations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiffy1986 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's a cast ecu, it came from a 1995 very early mk6, they did do a 130 mk6 but only for the first year, my current ECU for the 1.6 is envy, and not sure about the mondeo one. What you want for yours mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hezz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 there was no mk6 130Wrong. They did the 130 cab si and Orion si too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottybo Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Wrong. They did the 130 cab si and Orion si too I learnt something today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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