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Just so I understand this, are you saying (albeit indirectly) that someone should buy from the company they're getting advice from, even if it means they are spending more money?

People can do as they please, but me personally I would rather buy from a company that knows what they are selling and can advise me on which of the products to actually purchase. Take from that what you will :thumb:

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Just so I understand this, are you saying (albeit indirectly) that someone should buy from the company they're getting advice from, even if it means they are spending more money?

 

Im saying that if you go to a company, that has to pay to train and educate a member of staff, and then pay the staff and their benefits, and pay for the overheads of the building that the staff work in, for advice, which has cost them alot to achieve, using their time and expertise which is used to gain sales and keep the business going, then to bugger off to save a couple of quid is a bit out of order.

 

I dont think its right to waste the time of a person with no intention of them being compensated for it.

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People can do as they please, but me personally I would rather buy from a company that knows what they are selling and can advise me on which of the products to actually purchase. Take from that what you will :thumb:

Sorry Liam, that was more directed at Trig.. Forgot to add quotes :thumb:

Im saying that if you go to a company, that has to pay to train and educate a member of staff, and then pay the staff and their benefits, and pay for the overheads of the building that the staff work in, for advice, which has cost them alot to achieve, using their time and expertise which is used to gain sales and keep the business going, then to bugger off to save a couple of quid is a bit out of order.

 

I dont think its right to waste the time of a person with no intention of them being compensated for it.

Rightly or wrongly, no one cares about the costs incurred by a business to train its staff and to operate. Why should they?! People need a service. They want that service/product at the cheapest price.

 

As consumers, we're not gonna say "well, the guy at Curry's told me about this TV, so I'm gonna pay £50 more in store than I would at Play.com because I spoke to someone". That's just unrealistic

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Im saying that if you go to a company, that has to pay to train and educate a member of staff, and then pay the staff and their benefits, and pay for the overheads of the building that the staff work in, for advice, which has cost them alot to achieve, using their time and expertise which is used to gain sales and keep the business going, then to bugger off to save a couple of quid is a bit out of order.

 

I dont think its right to waste the time of a person with no intention of them being compensated for it.

Rightly or wrongly, no one cares about the costs incurred by a business to train its staff and to operate. Why should they?! People need a service. They want that service/product at the cheapest price.

 

As consumers, we're not gonna say "well, the guy at Curry's told me about this TV, so I'm gonna pay £50 more in store than I would at Play.com because I spoke to someone". That's just unrealistic

 

Is it really unrealistic that someone will pay an extra £50 for a product that they dont have to pay delivery on, and can go back to a place and speak to a person when something goes wrong?

 

People seem to think that they should get everything for nothing these days, but would be up in arms if they were to get nothing for their efforts.

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Im saying that if you go to a company, that has to pay to train and educate a member of staff, and then pay the staff and their benefits, and pay for the overheads of the building that the staff work in, for advice, which has cost them alot to achieve, using their time and expertise which is used to gain sales and keep the business going, then to bugger off to save a couple of quid is a bit out of order.

 

I dont think its right to waste the time of a person with no intention of them being compensated for it.

Rightly or wrongly, no one cares about the costs incurred by a business to train its staff and to operate. Why should they?! People need a service. They want that service/product at the cheapest price.

 

As consumers, we're not gonna say "well, the guy at Curry's told me about this TV, so I'm gonna pay £50 more in store than I would at Play.com because I spoke to someone". That's just unrealistic

 

Is it really unrealistic that someone will pay an extra £50 for a product that they dont have to pay delivery on, and can go back to a place and speak to a person when something goes wrong?

 

People seem to think that they should get everything for nothing these days, but would be up in arms if they were to get nothing for their efforts.

I, like most, am just all about saving money. There aren't too many scenario's I can think of where I would pay more for the exact same product at place A than I would at place B.

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I, like most, am just all about saving money. There aren't too many scenario's I can think of where I would pay more for the exact same product at place A than I would at place B.

Ok say say you seen 2 Escort Cosworths up for sale, 1 from "Car Planet" as we all know what their cars are like.. for £14,000 and 1 from jdmsport for £14,500

 

Simply for piece of mind and aftercare, would you not pay the £500 extra and go to jdmsports ?

 

Guess this is one of them personal choice things as I know I would if I was in that situation.

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I, like most, am just all about saving money. There aren't too many scenario's I can think of where I would pay more for the exact same product at place A than I would at place B.

Ok say say you seen 2 Escort Cosworths up for sale, 1 from "Car Planet" as we all know what their cars are like.. for £14,000 and 1 from jdmsport for £14,500

 

Simply for piece of mind and aftercare, would you not pay the £500 extra and go to jdmsports ?

 

Guess this is one of them personal choice things as I know I would if I was in that situation.

You're absolutely right, mate. For that kind of purchase, you'd be looking at the reputation of the seller, aftersales etc. That's fine.

 

And I am not saying there is anything wrong with people paying £x more because of whatever reason. I only posted in response to Trig and this idea that it is 'out of order' to get advice from an expert about product X but buy the exact same product X from a cheaper source.

 

I just can't grasp why saving my own money is out of order.

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I, like most, am just all about saving money. There aren't too many scenario's I can think of where I would pay more for the exact same product at place A than I would at place B.

Ok say say you seen 2 Escort Cosworths up for sale, 1 from "Car Planet" as we all know what their cars are like.. for £14,000 and 1 from jdmsport for £14,500

 

Simply for piece of mind and aftercare, would you not pay the £500 extra and go to jdmsports ?

 

Guess this is one of them personal choice things as I know I would if I was in that situation.

You're absolutely right, mate. For that kind of purchase, you'd be looking at the reputation of the seller, aftersales etc. That's fine.

 

And I am not saying there is anything wrong with people paying £x more because of whatever reason. I only posted in response to Trig and this idea that it is 'out of order' to get advice from an expert about product X but buy the exact same product X from a cheaper source.

 

I just can't grasp why saving my own money is out of order.

 

there is saving money and then there is taking advantage. I'm sure you wouldn't be pleased if your employer were to sack you and have someone else brought in to do the same job on a lower wage, after asking you to document all your processes so that anybody could do it.

 

I guess some of you haven't worked in retail situations with the general public. It's no fun to spend half an hour giving people advice that is essential to their purchase, while other potential purchasers come and go because they can't speak to the expert, only for those that have taken up your time to bugger off elsewhere and leave you down on time with nothing to show for it.

 

And wwwd, your statement about people only being concerned with price, you couldn't be more wrong.

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You work on commision Trig? If so then fair play, but in most stores the sales assistants dont get any money from serving you, Lets use holland and barrett as an example, the assistant wont lose any sleep or any pay if they spend 5 minutes talking about 2 similar nutritional products with you before you walk out and order one online for 20% less (thats if H&B are allowed to talk about nutrition)
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I, like most, am just all about saving money. There aren't too many scenario's I can think of where I would pay more for the exact same product at place A than I would at place B.

Ok say say you seen 2 Escort Cosworths up for sale, 1 from "Car Planet" as we all know what their cars are like.. for £14,000 and 1 from jdmsport for £14,500

 

Simply for piece of mind and aftercare, would you not pay the £500 extra and go to jdmsports ?

 

Guess this is one of them personal choice things as I know I would if I was in that situation.

You're absolutely right, mate. For that kind of purchase, you'd be looking at the reputation of the seller, aftersales etc. That's fine.

 

And I am not saying there is anything wrong with people paying £x more because of whatever reason. I only posted in response to Trig and this idea that it is 'out of order' to get advice from an expert about product X but buy the exact same product X from a cheaper source.

 

I just can't grasp why saving my own money is out of order.

 

there is saving money and then there is taking advantage. I'm sure you wouldn't be pleased if your employer were to sack you and have someone else brought in to do the same job on a lower wage, after asking you to document all your processes so that anybody could do it.

 

I guess some of you haven't worked in retail situations with the general public. It's no fun to spend half an hour giving people advice that is essential to their purchase, while other potential purchasers come and go because they can't speak to the expert, only for those that have taken up your time to bugger off elsewhere and leave you down on time with nothing to show for it.

 

And wwwd, your statement about people only being concerned with price, you couldn't be more wrong.

Ha!

 

So people don't look out for the best deal?

 

And I worked in retail for 7 years, not sure how that's relevant though.

 

I'm really not sure what your argument is. That people will pay more if for a product if it's from a company that has better service?

 

So no-one shops around and looks for a cheaper price elsewhere?

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You work on commision Trig? If so then fair play, but in most stores the sales assistants dont get any money from serving you, Lets use holland and barrett as an example, the assistant wont lose any sleep or any pay if they spend 5 minutes talking about 2 similar nutritional products with you before you walk out and order one online for 20% less (thats if H&B are allowed to talk about nutrition)

 

No I dont work on commission, I just believe that time is valuable and that if you have no intention of compensating someone for their time then you shouldn't take their time when there are other people that will.

 

 

And wwwd, your statement about people only being concerned with price, you couldn't be more wrong.

 

Ha!

 

So people don't look out for the best deal?

 

And I worked in retail for 7 years, not sure how that's relevant though.

 

I'm really not sure what your argument is. That people will pay more if for a product if it's from a company that has better service?

 

So no-one shops around and looks for a cheaper price elsewhere?

 

There is a difference between the cheapest and the best deal.

 

And Yes, that is my argument, people will pay more for a product if the service is there, I have the sales figures for a £1.2bn turnover company infront of me that proves this. You said: "The bottom line the cheapest price is the most important thing to most people", the real bottom line is, you are wrong on that, but redeemed yourself slightly with recognising that its the best deal that people look for.

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