every one get involved

[mk6 cozzy]

iv came across a dilema, do i put cams in the engine iv got or put a 2.0l in what would you do

all advice will be considered

 

O before i forget iv got a RUN WHAT U BRUNG in may just 1/4 mile drag so bare that in mind

if you have any advice, like what i should do to the engine before i drag it never done it before lol should be a laff

 

thanks lads

[dutchkev]

2 litre would be cheaper and easier than the cams imo

[KNITERIDER]

your engine already has cams, incidently unless you have other major mods aftermarket cams will slow it down, there is already a 130ps escort engine in 1.8 form personally id plonk a 2.0 (136ps) engine in. there are no real gains to be had without turbos superchargers and throttlebodies but with that come 1000's of pounds. personally decent exhaust and induction kit (prob make little to no diff mind) and strip the interior are your best mods...failing that an rs2000 conversion to get 150ps

[meekstaaa]

if you put different cams in you're a fool, just get a 2.0 and do it properly.

[JC]

2.0 FTW!

[rodssescort]

why not do a 2ltr.. and then if you want more power.. cam the 2ltr..

[KNITERIDER]

why not do a 2ltr.. and then if you want more power.. cam the 2ltr..

 

 

because as i said above,unless there were ALREADY alot of mods on the engine like ITB's or turbos etc changing the cams will LOSE power.

[escort4x4]

camming a 2ltr engine will not lose power, it will shift the power bands, and add slight power, but for the money its not worth it

[mk6 cozzy]

so let me get this right im new to the zetec world lol

 

if i put the 130 2.0l cams in my 1.8 with throttle body n what not will i still get 130bhp???

 

if i decide to put the to 2.0l in can i run with a 1.8 ecu????

[Stu]

camming a 2ltr engine will not lose power, it will shift the power bands, and add slight power, but for the money its not worth it

 

You will lose torque in the areas most people use frequently, and lost torque means lost power.

[escort4x4]

ive had 2ltr engines cammed fella, moved the power band and altered the torque ratings, i suppose different engines meaning wear n tear etc would dictate what the out comes are.

[Stu]

ive had 2ltr engines cammed fella, moved the power band and altered the torque ratings, i suppose different engines meaning wear n tear etc would dictate what the out comes are.

 

As I said, you will lose torque where you use the engine most frequently. Most people don't spend the majority of their time flat out about 5000rpm to 'reap the benefits' of two or three extra horse power. Below the 'new' powerband, you have less torque and thus less power at any given engine speed.

[RyanML]

put a 2.0 zetec in there, then if you want 150bhp get an rs1800 inlet, 4 branch and decat and you'll have it... Or close too anyways Edited March 2, 2010 by RyanML

[stevmo3691]

so let me get this right im new to the zetec world lol

 

if i put the 130 2.0l cams in my 1.8 with throttle body n what not will i still get 130bhp???

 

if i decide to put the to 2.0l in can i run with a 1.8 ecu????

2.0 wont run on a 1.8 ecu. i was going to use 1.8 130PS cams on my 115 engine with 2.0 throttle body (same port size as the 130 1.8's but for SEFI inlet not EFI). you would possibly want to run a superchip upgrade on that option though as the difference between the 130 and 105 (these were the 2 variants of 1.8 at the time) is cams, throttle body and ECU IIRC

changed my mind though as a better induction kit has freed mine up nicely (have those for sale btw)

 

good forced cold air induction kit, free breathing exhaust (pref de-cat), quality service and possbily the cams and throttle i suggested will see you at 130-135 estimate (mine dynoed at 126.9 with good induction kit, ual core HT leads and new plugs - might do more with a less restrictive exhaust)

[ScORTED]

so let me get this right im new to the zetec world lol

 

if i put the 130 2.0l cams in my 1.8 with throttle body n what not will i still get 130bhp???

 

if i decide to put the to 2.0l in can i run with a 1.8 ecu????

2.0 wont run on a 1.8 ecu. yes it will i was going to use 1.8 130PS cams on my 115 engine with 2.0 throttle body (same port size as the 130 1.8's but for SEFI inlet not EFI). you would possibly want to run a superchip upgrade superchip don't do one for that spec off the shelf and the gain versus cost of having a custom mapped chip etc is crazy on that option though as the difference between the 130 and 105 (these were the 2 variants of 1.8 at the time) is cams, throttle body and ECU IIRC and inlet and flywheel and under piston oil jets

changed my mind though as a better induction kit has freed mine up nicely (have those for sale btw) induction kits just waste fuel on the zetecs which don't run well with the heatsoak you'll get from a filter and yes theres lots you can do to attempt to combat it but its pointless as the airbox your replacing isn't whats "holding back" the performance

 

good forced cold air induction kit, free breathing exhaust (pref de-cat) unless its a decat and sensible bore and bends its probably worse than fitting a new standard system , quality service always a good idea on any car and possbily the cams and throttle i suggested will see you at 130-135 in the real world there will be very little difference estimate (mine dynoed dynos are as variable and reliable as weather forcasts unless you have the car run standard and change the parts there and then and get a value for the change in horsepower and torque, a graph is useful for this at 126.9 with good induction kit, ual core HT leads waste of money on standard coil pack and ignition system standard leads would give the same result and new plugs - might do more with a less restrictive exhaust)