Is the rear offset increased when ST170 discs fitted

[demented]

I believe when Focus ST170 rear discs, stub axles etc are fitted to a mk6 Escort, the offset of the rear wheels is increased ?

 

If this is so, by how much ?

 

I currently have 17" alloys wheels with a offset of 40 fitted to the rear.

Would I need to change the wheels to match the new offset of the new rear discs/hub conversion ?

 

Will the offset issue be the same, even if I acquire stub axles from any Focus with rear discs, rather than a ST170 ?

 

I've heard or read that the discs can be machined to decrease the offset, is this true, really necessary and safe to do ?

 

 

Also, do I use the ABS sensor from the Escort or the ABS sensor from the Focus set up ?

[Stu]

Yes

Some

You should

Most likely

Possible but not ideal

Not sure

 

 

Why not just use the proper Escort stuff?

[demented]

I want to keep the ABS.

 

Also under MOT test rules, if ABS been disabled, complete system must be removed, don't fancy doing that.

 

From under the bonnet it'll be obvious there is or was 4 wheel ABS due to the pump, also dash warning light will detect a fault if rear sensors removed.

 

Without disabling ABS, how effective would emergency braking be with ABS only operating on the front brakes ?

 

Unless there's an option to fit Proper Escort stuff and keep 4 wheel ABS ?

 

 

I want to keep the ABS.

 

Also under MOT test rules, if ABS been disabled, complete system must be removed, don't fancy doing that.

 

From under the bonnet it'll be obvious there is or was 4 wheel ABS due to the pump, also dash warning light will detect a fault if rear sensors removed.

 

Without disabling ABS, how effective would emergency braking be with ABS only operating on the front brakes ?

 

Unless there's an option to fit Proper Escort stuff and keep 4 wheel ABS ?

[scottybo]

I want to keep the ABS.

 

Also under MOT test rules, if ABS been disabled, complete system must be removed, don't fancy doing that.

 

From under the bonnet it'll be obvious there is or was 4 wheel ABS due to the pump, also dash warning light will detect a fault if rear sensors removed.

 

Without disabling ABS, how effective would emergency braking be with ABS only operating on the front brakes ?

 

Unless there's an option to fit Proper Escort stuff and keep 4 wheel ABS ?

 

 

I want to keep the ABS.

 

Also under MOT test rules, if ABS been disabled, complete system must be removed, don't fancy doing that.

 

From under the bonnet it'll be obvious there is or was 4 wheel ABS due to the pump, also dash warning light will detect a fault if rear sensors removed.

 

Without disabling ABS, how effective would emergency braking be with ABS only operating on the front brakes ?

 

Unless there's an option to fit Proper Escort stuff and keep 4 wheel ABS ?

 

 

you ever seen a car lock up its rear wheels under hard braking? it will be fine just on the front id say

[JC]

you ever seen a car lock up its rear wheels under hard braking? it will be fine just on the front id say

 

 

i have... mine,... have a video of it some where too../.

[scottybo]

you ever seen a car lock up its rear wheels under hard braking? it will be fine just on the front id say

 

 

i have... mine,... have a video of it some where too../.

really! thats pretty sick lets have a look at the video id like to see that

[JC]

you ever seen a car lock up its rear wheels under hard braking? it will be fine just on the front id say

 

 

i have... mine,... have a video of it some where too../.

really! thats pretty sick lets have a look at the video id like to see that

 

[demented]

So, with ABS only on the front wheels with a mk5 RS rear beam n discs fitted, how would I get round the ABS light illuminating due to rear ABS sensor not being detected or connected ?

[Stu]

I don't think you can have 'abs only on the front wheels'

[demented]

Why not just use the proper Escort stuff?

 

What Escort stuff are you referring to ?

 

I would prefer rear discs and to keep the ABS.

 

I don't like the idea of ABS to front only and rears locking up, also the MOT test to consider.

 

The Rs2000 had the proportioning valve, so I assumed that worked in unison with the front only ABS and prevented the rear discs locking up ?

[lee grout]

Why not just use the proper Escort stuff?

 

What Escort stuff are you referring to ?

 

I would prefer rear discs and to keep the ABS.

 

I don't like the idea of ABS to front only and rears locking up, also the MOT test to consider.

 

The Rs2000 had the proportioning valve, so I assumed that worked in unison with the front only ABS and prevented the rear discs locking up ?

 

I assume he means using a rear beam from an escort rs2000 or the like instead of bits from a focus. Must be a rear disc'd beam with abs you can get a hold of.

[scottybo]

you ever seen a car lock up its rear wheels under hard braking? it will be fine just on the front id say

 

 

i have... mine,... have a video of it some where too../.

really! thats pretty sick lets have a look at the video id like to see that

 

 

 

triple OG

[bongo]

the car i removed my focus rear setup from had the abs to all corners, and the mk6 rs i have has abs to the rear,so its possible.

[demented]

I don't beleive Rs rear beam is available with Disc and ABS.

 

Rs only had front ABS with rear discs and the proportioning valve.

 

Maybe the Rs2000 4x4 has 4 wheel ABS but I dont think that set up can be fitted to a 2wd Escort Mk5/6.

I also believe the rear ABS reluctor rings on the 4x4 arevon the drive shafts rather the within the hub.

 

The only rear disc conversion I'm aware of for the Mk6 and keeping 4 wheel abs, is the Focus stub axles etc.

[bongo]

i have a mk6 rs2000 with discs front and drums rear, it has 4wheel abs.