JAMGTI Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 ahemVehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge(HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fittedwith headlamp washers and a suspension orheadlamp self levelling system.Where such systems are fitted, they must work;however, it is accepted that it may not be possibleto readily determine the functioning of self levellingsystems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubtmust be given.Headlamp washers may work in conjunction withthe windscreen washers (when the dipped beamheadlamps are switched on) or by a separateswitch. from mot info under Inspection Manual for Classes 3, 4, 5 and 7 Vehicles So that means your mum's car still shouldn't pass an MOT because it is not fitted with either of those systems. the benefit of the doubt is because you may not be able to test the self leveling but you will be able to check the system is fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevmo3691 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 ahemVehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge(HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fittedwith headlamp washers and a suspension orheadlamp self levelling system.Where such systems are fitted, they must work;however, it is accepted that it may not be possibleto readily determine the functioning of self levellingsystems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubtmust be given.Headlamp washers may work in conjunction withthe windscreen washers (when the dipped beamheadlamps are switched on) or by a separateswitch. from mot info under Inspection Manual for Classes 3, 4, 5 and 7 Vehicles So that means your mum's car still shouldn't pass an MOT because it is not fitted with either of those systems. the benefit of the doubt is because you may not be able to test the self leveling but you will be able to check the system is fitted.re-read that. - MAY be fitted, not MUST and Where fitted must work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMGTI Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 ahemVehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge(HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fittedwith headlamp washers and a suspension orheadlamp self levelling system.Where such systems are fitted, they must work;however, it is accepted that it may not be possibleto readily determine the functioning of self levellingsystems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubtmust be given.Headlamp washers may work in conjunction withthe windscreen washers (when the dipped beamheadlamps are switched on) or by a separateswitch. from mot info under Inspection Manual for Classes 3, 4, 5 and 7 Vehicles So that means your mum's car still shouldn't pass an MOT because it is not fitted with either of those systems. the benefit of the doubt is because you may not be able to test the self leveling but you will be able to check the system is fitted.re-read that. - MAY be fitted, not MUST and Where fitted must work. I and i think most MOT and VOSA testers would read that as HIDs may be fitted with those items already in place.and they are usually only fitted as standard equipment. It's all in how you read that statement, I doubt you have stumbled upon a loophole for legally fitting HIDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmotorsport Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Why not just service it and leave the fecking thing alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevmo3691 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 my car, my choice what I do thank you. Having spoken to several MOT testers, under current legislation they are perfectly legal to retro-fit as long as they have a defined cut off beam and alligned correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmotorsport Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 my car, my choice what I do thank you.Not slating you for it, it's just, you could be using the money to fund the Mondeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevmo3691 Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 my car, my choice what I do thank you.Not slating you for it, it's just, you could be using the money to fund the Mondeo.only spending a small amount on this just to make it a bit more enjoyable - mondeo is a bit down the list atm as I need to service dads car, service this incl. cambelt, practice some welding before I start on the mondeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naylor2006 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Number plates and HID's legality debate again..... Quite alot wrong with the BMW in the end and I see your finally getting a van anyway which is going to be far easier for business surely. Shame you have to fork out all the dosh for the gearbox all considering. Excited to see what comes after the Volvo cause honestly there is no predicting it. No debate on the HID'S legality mate iam an mot tester i know they are illegal Yeh, Im more talking about the debate on whether they pass or not. It seems that regardless of the legality or regulations cars do make it through MOT's with aftermarket HID's that shouldnt be there even when they dont meet the layed down requirements. I know someone recently who did and it wasnt through a back street garage. Im still getting annoyed by how bright the fking Audi's head lights are who chooses to drive so close to me for no reason and thats a stock setup. I wonder how many people wants HID's for better lighting or just so they can have blue/purple lights? I used to fit the PIAA Extreme bulbs which was as close to a blue tint as you could get but nothing like a proper HID setup, Im not sure but I guess only HIDs can get to the right K level so you can get the required look. I was never interested in better performing lights, I just wanted bl0000 lights but then im a sucker. Aftermarket numberplates are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottybo Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Number plates and HID's legality debate again..... Quite alot wrong with the BMW in the end and I see your finally getting a van anyway which is going to be far easier for business surely. Shame you have to fork out all the dosh for the gearbox all considering. Excited to see what comes after the Volvo cause honestly there is no predicting it. No debate on the HID'S legality mate iam an mot tester i know they are illegal Yeh, Im more talking about the debate on whether they pass or not. It seems that regardless of the legality or regulations cars do make it through MOT's with aftermarket HID's that shouldnt be there even when they dont meet the layed down requirements. I know someone recently who did and it wasnt through a back street garage. Im still getting annoyed by how bright the fking Audi's head lights are who chooses to drive so close to me for no reason and thats a stock setup. I wonder how many people wants HID's for better lighting or just so they can have blue/purple lights? I used to fit the PIAA Extreme bulbs which was as close to a blue tint as you could get but nothing like a proper HID setup, Im not sure but I guess only HIDs can get to the right K level so you can get the required look. I was never interested in better performing lights, I just wanted bl0000 lights but then im a sucker. Aftermarket numberplates are stupid. he lives! i never understood why people change for hids or different bulbs or watever......regular bulbs do the job perfectly well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naylor2006 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Number plates and HID's legality debate again..... Quite alot wrong with the BMW in the end and I see your finally getting a van anyway which is going to be far easier for business surely. Shame you have to fork out all the dosh for the gearbox all considering. Excited to see what comes after the Volvo cause honestly there is no predicting it. No debate on the HID'S legality mate iam an mot tester i know they are illegal Yeh, Im more talking about the debate on whether they pass or not. It seems that regardless of the legality or regulations cars do make it through MOT's with aftermarket HID's that shouldnt be there even when they dont meet the layed down requirements. I know someone recently who did and it wasnt through a back street garage. Im still getting annoyed by how bright the fking Audi's head lights are who chooses to drive so close to me for no reason and thats a stock setup. I wonder how many people wants HID's for better lighting or just so they can have blue/purple lights? I used to fit the PIAA Extreme bulbs which was as close to a blue tint as you could get but nothing like a proper HID setup, Im not sure but I guess only HIDs can get to the right K level so you can get the required look. I was never interested in better performing lights, I just wanted bl0000 lights but then im a sucker. Aftermarket numberplates are stupid. he lives! i never understood why people change for hids or different bulbs or watever......regular bulbs do the job perfectly well As I said, cause they want bl000000 headlights that look totes amaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malfis Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Why HID? Because HID/xenon bulb has something aboout 3000 lumens and halogen just 1500. So thats the answer. You will see better. Thats logic... so i dont understand answer "why hid? Halogens light too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naylor2006 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Why HID? Because HID/xenon bulb has something aboout 3000 lumens and halogen just 1500. So thats the answer. You will see better. Thats logic... so i dont understand answer "why hid? Halogens light too Ey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Why HID? Because HID/xenon bulb has something aboout 3000 lumens and halogen just 1500. So thats the answer. You will see better. Thats logic... so i dont understand answer "why hid? Halogens light too Whilst you demonstrate the ability to copy and paste blanket statements you've read on the internet, you've been woefully inept at actually identifying the issue with your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malfis Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Do you want me to tell that xenon lights same as halogen? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Do you want me to tell that xenon lights same as halogen? I don't think so. What's the gas got to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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