tezmanian devil Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 Soldered joints are the strongest joint you can make, not sure why he said that, interested to find out though. and looks a dam site tidier! if that was my car i would be ripping all them wires out that arent needed and getting rid of that ally centre console if you replace the panels you have as you go along there is a good chance you will find all sorts of horrors under the front wings so it may be off the road longer than you wanted it to be but if you can weld or are willing to learn then thats what i would do and drive it round multi coloured already been removing un-needed wireing, all the gauges have gone and the alloy plate has gone but iv kept the switchs for now until i have a haynes manual so i can remove them and sort the rest of the wireing out because there isnt one bit of wireing that hasnt been attacked, begining to think it might just be easier and better to change the loom for another in better nick...? do you know if a 2ltr pinto wireing is the same as normal crossflow wireing? im sort of teaching myself how to weld atm so welding wont be a problem, i know i need to replace metal under the front wings because i'v got a leak somewhere around the lower corner on the windscreen (drivers side) any idea's what this could be?but yeh, i think doing it panel by panel when they turn up is the way to go, it has around 11 months mot so would be silly not to use it for abit really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrebus Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Soldered joints are the strongest joint you can make, not sure why he said that, interested to find out though. and looks a dam site tidier! if that was my car i would be ripping all them wires out that arent needed and getting rid of that ally centre console if you replace the panels you have as you go along there is a good chance you will find all sorts of horrors under the front wings so it may be off the road longer than you wanted it to be but if you can weld or are willing to learn then thats what i would do and drive it round multi coloured already been removing un-needed wireing, all the gauges have gone and the alloy plate has gone but iv kept the switchs for now until i have a haynes manual so i can remove them and sort the rest of the wireing out because there isnt one bit of wireing that hasnt been attacked, begining to think it might just be easier and better to change the loom for another in better nick...? do you know if a 2ltr pinto wireing is the same as normal crossflow wireing? im sort of teaching myself how to weld atm so welding wont be a problem, i know i need to replace metal under the front wings because i'v got a leak somewhere around the lower corner on the windscreen (drivers side) any idea's what this could be?but yeh, i think doing it panel by panel when they turn up is the way to go, it has around 11 months mot so would be silly not to use it for abit really wireing is similar if you use a points dizzy but every thing is swaped sides so will have to extend/shorten wireing to suit .but would be a good idea to fit a later dizzy from a sierra or similar .leak could be as easy as a screen seal or could be rust (more likely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze4door Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 yeah typical areas are the window rubbers leaking, mine has new rubbers but it still manages to leak, worst case scenario is rust under the wings and they also go inside the heater bubble, i dont know what it is like for mk2's but it is really hard to find a decent mk1 loom, as said the pinto manifolds are on the oposite sides to the crossflows but there isnt much wiring in one of these things which is the beauty of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezmanian devil Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 been having a look around for this leak and it seems like it is coming in from more under the wing area than round the windscreen so looks like im going to be doing some metal fab works and the wings will be getting fitted sooner than i thought...also been looking for a leak in the back of the car which has turnt out to be the tailgate seal, looks like it could be the wrong one if im honest, the boot lid sits a good 1/4inch away from the seal and iv tried adjusting it all to close the gap but no matter what i try it wont close up so looks like a new seal is needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmotorsport Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 been having a look around for this leak and it seems like it is coming in from more under the wing area than round the windscreen so looks like im going to be doing some metal fab works and the wings will be getting fitted sooner than i thought...also been looking for a leak in the back of the car which has turnt out to be the tailgate seal, looks like it could be the wrong one if im honest, the boot lid sits a good 1/4inch away from the seal and iv tried adjusting it all to close the gap but no matter what i try it wont close up so looks like a new seal is needed Welcome to classic motors Sir! You have to remember though, no car in the 60's and 70's didn't leak some form of fluid and rain did get in, don't think they're modern cars! xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezmanian devil Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 yeh i can imagine but i very much dout most classics leak as much as mine does pmsl, iv just found a new tailgate rubber seal and it's completly different to what i have fitted so atleast im not just being stupid lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmotorsport Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 yeh i can imagine but i very much dout most classics leak as much as mine does pmsl, iv just found a new tailgate rubber seal and it's completly different to what i have fitted so atleast im not just being stupid lolAhh, that's alright then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrebus Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 yeh i can imagine but i very much dout most classics leak as much as mine does pmsl, iv just found a new tailgate rubber seal and it's completly different to what i have fitted so atleast im not just being stupid loli'm prety sure ive got a sierra boot /fiesta door seals and fiesta screen rubbers on my mk1 escort (and it still leaks lol)it was a case if it would work then fit it but now there are a lot more parts available for the rwd escorts so you should be able to get something suitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezmanian devil Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 been playing with the hearse (what its now called apparently) again, i started by removing the carpet to see what state the floor was in and i was quite suprised to only find a little bit of rot hiding... but there's some dodgy plates that the gearbox cradle bolts to.. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/c0b194ea.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/5a6d1245.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/17a8af17.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/5ea836d1.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/5a4d3a3e.jpg the inner sills on the passenger side look pretty solid, but the drivers side has been patched up a couple of times so il take the plates off next time im out there and see whats lurking behind had this turn up the other day aswel, nice new boot lock so i can actually lock the car up lol http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/31d31559.jpg janky old one... http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/f8a120fb.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/88ebe108.jpg nice new one http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/0997a3b2.jpg also had a poke around on the body work while the weather was nice the other day, rubbed down the bubbling around the n/s/r arch to see just how bad it is and it's pretty shot so just put some prima on to cover the bare metal, and done the same in a few other spots aswel. hole above the o/s/r window http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/7870f472.jpg random pic http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/4f4f1d73.jpg while i had my tools out there i decided to remove the front lower bib thing and see how it was looking behind it and found this... http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/f66bea19.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/ec384d35.jpg the other side isnt so bad so just rubbed it down and primered it http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/bd81e928.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/88903683.jpg not sure wether to chop out the rot and replace or just go all out and get a new front panel? and a random pic of how the battery's been positioned in the spare wheel well at the rear lol http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/9ee7f1c7.jpg notice the nice pink blanket thats been used to secure the battery in place pmsl! and finally, a few pics of this nice little jem i saw at work the other day. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/6e2398e8.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/d10a494c.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/f4043c79.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/bd8d42c1.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/08a3c5a8.jpg stunning car! anyway, as always, il updte as an when Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmotorsport Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Got your work cut out there mate! Look toward to seeing it through the stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezmanian devil Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 Yeh havnt I just can't wait to crack on with it, hopfully get some more done today when the wife gets back from work Hopfully get the new bonnet on and lined up and swop the tailgates over maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmotorsport Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Sounds good mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezmanian devil Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 update time, only a little one though made a start on the new bonnet the other day, it was relatively clean but had abit of surface rust on the underside so i set about rubbing it all down to prevent the rust getting any worse and gave it a coat of primer. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/c8907246.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/a6f8df64.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/abefde8b.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/08584b83.jpg my little girls now at the age where she must help with everything so gave her abit of sand paper hopfully one day she'll be bringing me my spanners and sockets lol http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/51a7576a.jpg and done bar the odd patch which is where i had to rub it down again http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/ae611d29.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/6fe67ce0.jpg and now fitted with janky old bonnet pins until i get some lockable aero catchs http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/918df2ed.jpg and the old one, what a mess that was!! ideal for a grass track escort if anyone knows anyone :wink: http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/9911dd6e.jpg with the bonnet done i then set about doing the tailgate, this is also pretty clean, just needed the holes for the badges and rear wiper welder up and good rub down... http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/e79bc2f4.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/d1b238b9.jpg http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/5b408e92.jpg while rubbing it down i found a little hole where the boot handle/lock is so welded that up aswel... http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/65399140.jpg thats as far as i have managed to go with the tailgate for now, need to get some more sanding disc's befour i can go on rubbing down and weld up where the rear window washer jet used to sit sinse i ran out of sanding discs iv not really had alot i could get on with because the weathers been crap down here and i cant get the car upto my garage :banghead: but i had a quick break it the weather the other night so had another poke about around the car, this time i focused on the rear lower valance because it just looked shot, completly out of shape and you could just tell filler was hiding a few secrets lolmy main focus at first was on the where the rear bumper should mount because it had been filled, so with my hammer and chisel at the ready i started chipping away and then suddely a big old chunk came off and fell to the floor revealing this :no: http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/d0151ddc.jpg couldnt beleive how much fibre glass and filler was there so had to take a picture... http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/175a353b.jpg and another bit sized up against a stanley to show how much was there http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/5c5665f9.jpg this car will proberly actually be a little bit lighter once iv removed all the filler and repalced with proper metal :lol: i was expecting that panel to be rot from when i first looked over the car and managed to source a new genuine ford replacement panel befour actaully doing the deal to swop so quite lucky i did find it really... http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/8c310f59.jpg when weather permits im going to chop the old one out and replace all the rot metal thats behind it on the rear underside part if that makes sense? and then fit the new valence but il update as and when i get to that sinse we've had all this bad weather iv noticed i have a couple of leaks on the car, first is coming in through the window wiper area in the middle of the dash and dripping down on to the gearbox tunnel, 2nd is coming in near the drivers side bottom corner of the windscreen and it looks like it's just coming in where the wing meets the front door piller bit (A piller?) so that will have to wait until im ready to fit the wings and the 3rd was coming in around the tailgate, so i had a look and when sitting in the back with the tailgate shut you could see daylight through where the seal should be sealing, so i had a look at the seal and it just looked completly wrong, it didnt sit up to where it should be sitting, looked more like the door seals so seeing as there was nothing i could do with it i ordered a new seal, and sure enough, when it arrived it was completly different, unfortunetly i forgot to take pics of the 2 but i will next time im out there!here's the new seal anyway... http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/b44ac236.jpg and finally to finish this update, iv admitted defeat with the wireing in this car and got another off g.s.escort which only needs a couple of repairs which is alot beter than my current loom which needs ALOT of work!just need to find myself a mk2 estate haynes manual so i can go through it all and tidy it up abit, anyone have a haynes manual? or mk2 estate wireing diamgrams you could e-mail me atall? http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m106/tezmanian_devil/mk2%20escort%20estate/feaf7701.jpg more to come soon hopfully :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee grout Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Havnt been on here in a while and just read the latest update. You dont do things by half's do you lol. A proper project, could look really cool when done. Dont know if you mentioned earlier or not but what colour will it be and what engine has it got/will it have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezmanian devil Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Nope no half measures here lol, it currently has a 2ltr pinto engine and I was going to fit a 2ltr zetec engine bit I'm thinking of leaving the pinto in now because it suit the age of the car better if you know what I mean?As for colour, I'm thinking about doing it vauxhall arden blue with white Mexico style decals down the side and white wheels with a polished rim it looks good in my head but my mind changes like the weather so it could well end up being something different lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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